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[coinilius]

Actually I think it's a pretty interesting theory, Fierce Diety - I don't really think there's enough in-game evidence to back it up, but it has some potential As for the Magic Sword/White Sword thing - I know the Magic Sword was the last sword Link ended up with in LoZ, and it's not much of a stretch to think that the sword he was using in AoL was the LoZ Magic Sword, but the White Sword connection seemed to good to pass up

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[FDL]

Actually I think it's a pretty interesting theory, Fierce Diety - I don't really think there's enough in-game evidence to back it up, but it has some potential As for the Magic Sword/White Sword thing - I know the Magic Sword was the last sword Link ended up with in LoZ, and it's not much of a stretch to think that the sword he was using in AoL was the LoZ Magic Sword, but the White Sword connection seemed to good to pass up

Yeah, perhaps the Magic Sword was just a powered up White Sword? The White Sword in TMC changes about four times so it isn't that far fetched.

[MikePetersSucks]

I wasn't trying to pass that off as a realistic theory, Mike - just wanted to add some stuff to what Fierce Diety (I think) said  Although, about the Triforce just wishing the monsters away - I don't know if the Triforce actually can do that... Ganon never just wishes Link away in aLttP, and the King of Hyrule doesn't just wish Ganon away at the end of tWW. It could be that the Triforce is unable to just 'wink' people out of existence *shrugs*

But it CAN! the Triforce has no limits, it can grant ANY wish. There's no proof that Ganon even had total control over the Triforce, and if he did, there could be several explainations, like he didn't see Link as enough of a threat, or Fate protected him, or even the Master Sword (it can repel the Triforce's magic) and the King wished for Hope for the Children. In my opinion, that means that Good will always prevail and whatnot, so he didn't see the need. Or maybe he's just a butthole who wanted to watch Ganondorf get pwned by a 10 year old. Either way, the Triforce could do it. if the Cap of Wishing can do it, the Triforce certainly can

[coinilius]

There is evidence that Ganon had control over the Triforce in aLttP - the Essence of the Triforce says how Ganon was the last person to make a wish on it, how it made the Dark World as a way of expressing his wish... He was making wishes on the Triforce. I believe there's been debate over this countless times before, though.

[MikePetersSucks]

Yea, but we don't know if he had full and total control over it, since you need a balanced heart to fully control it. Plus, the Sacred Realm is a mirror of a person's heart, so it would of been like that anyway once Ganon entered it. I think that he had some control over it, but the Sage's Seal kept him from using it's magic on anything outside of the Dark World (Since the Sages made the Master Sword, which can repel Triforce Magic, I don't see why a Seal made by the same people can't repel it as well). I also don't think he could of used it to make Link, the Sages, or anyone else important like that because, the Sages can repel Triforce magic, but both they and Link are destined to defeat Ganon by the Gods. the Triforce is controlled by the Gods, so I don't think the Triforce, while it can grant any wish, it can't be used to directly contradict the will of the Gods.

[lord-of-shadow]

No, the Sacred Realm is dark because Ganon wished to conquer the world... and the Dark world changed to a reflection of him. That was how he conquered it, imposed himself on it. It pretty much says that straight out in LttP.. one of the conversations with the maidens or the Essence of the Triforce, I think.

People's bodies change form to reflect their heart when they enter the Dark World, unless they have the Moon Pearl. The entire world doesn't change whenever someone enters it. Also, note that it only happens like that after Ganon changes it to the Dark World.

And I have always assumed that the united Triforce will grant one wish, and one wish alone. If that's the case, then it's pretty darned obvious why Ganon didn't just wish Link dead in LttP.

[coinilius]

That one wish thing seems to be backed up by tWW as well, seeing as how the Triforce flies up and splits after the King wishes on it in the end.

[MikePetersSucks]

But then what about the quote that says the Triforce serves you your whole life, for the rest of your life? I think that one tree said it in the Palace of Darkness. What is it going to do if it only has one wish per person? Be shiny? send you on quests to save Oracles who are being used as pawns to ressurect a great evil? talk to you? (hmm...that's a good fanfiction idea. since the Triforce is capable of actual thought, could it be possible for an innocent person to wish for the Triforce to become an independant lifeform that didn't have to grant wishes? O.o)

[coinilius]

Maybe the King didn't have a balanced heart, and the Triforce split apart when he made his wish - perhaps people get the wish they made granted before the Triforce splits... ie Ganondorf in OoT wished to conquer Hyrule, the Triforce grants him that wish, then splits and goes to ground in Link and Zelda. He DID make his wish come true, after all, and take over Hyrule for seven years.

[JRPomazon]

And I have always assumed that the united Triforce will grant one wish, and one wish alone. If that's the case, then it's pretty darned obvious why Ganon didn't just wish Link dead in LttP.

Wow. It funny, I never thought the triforce could be used to kill people. But it makes sense that a person can get as many wishes as he or she wants on the triforce as long as you have a balanced heart and well the triforce in your possession.

[lord-of-shadow]

But then what about the quote that says the Triforce serves you your whole life, for the rest of your life? I think that one tree said it in the Palace of Darkness. What is it going to do if it only has one wish per person? Be shiny? send you on quests to save Oracles who are being used as pawns to ressurect a great evil? talk to you? (hmm...that's a good fanfiction idea. since the Triforce is capable of actual thought, could it be possible for an innocent person to wish for the Triforce to become an independant lifeform that didn't have to grant wishes? O.o)

Ganon uses the Power of the Triforce of Power, when he changes to his pig form in OOT. He probably uses it other times to fuel his magic or something.

Courage and Wisdom are less tangible then sheer power, so it's hard to tell, but I would assume they somehow act to help their wielder, too.

There has never been any indication that the Triforce's power is limited solely to wishes.

[Zythe]

I always saw the Triforce, as that which made you a god, you can do whatever you want (like a wish), the only thing that could repel the magic of teh Triforce was TMS.

[lord-of-shadow]

I've always pictured it giving godlike powers, but not infinite wishes.