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[ganonlord6000]

Does anyone have any guesses as to what Zelda Wii's story might be? I think that it could be the IW or the origins of the MS due to the sword apparantly not being involved. Maybe we'll see a Ganon predating OOT's Ganon. What do you guys think?

[Person]

I'm going to be unoriginal and say TP sequel.

[CID Farwin]

My guess is that it will be a "new era."

[Fin]

Some evil will strike Hyrule, upsetting Link's peaceful life and forcing him to take up arms. Along the way he'll meet a spunky new partner, whose callous attitude will gradually make way for respect and fondness for Link. Their quest will involve hunting down several MacGuffins, in order to increase their power so that they may reach the instigator of the evil.

Oh, and the girl is a sword, I guess.

[D~N]

Snape kills Dumbledore.


























Alternate ending: lots of trains.

[Erimgard]

I'm guessing it's in between OoT and TP.
No Ganon, thank Din.

[SOAP]

Since it's said to be set in a "New Era" I take it that this will be a series reboot and that this game's story will be totally unrelated to the whole OoT/TWW/TP arc. As unpopular as such views are, I think of the series a several seperate storylines that are only vaguely connected by the fact taht they all take place in a land called Hyrule and all the key players keep reincarnating. All of this has happened before and it will happen again, and again, and again....

This time I don't think it will be a soft reboot like we've gotten in the past. I think this will be a hard reboot, cutting ties with the original timeline and carving a new direction for the series. No timeline splits, just a new timeline all together. That said this may be the origin story for the Master Sword, at least in this new timeline.

[MikePetersSucks]

The girl is the Master Sword, and it's the story of the sword's origin.

[FDL]

I don't get why no one wants Ganon when we had him swearing their war was far from over at the end of TP and the TP-ALttP connection could use some fleshing out...

[Raien]

You're all wrong.

Wii Zelda is going to star a young boy in the real world who plays Legend of Zelda and dreams of being the Hero of Hyrule. Fate brings the boy into Hyrule, and he must save the kingdom as the new Hero of Light, only to wake up and realise it was all a dream. And as an added bonus, this game will sort out every continuity problem in the Zelda timeline, because Miyamoto and Aonuma are just awesome like that.

[ganonlord6000]

I just read on ZL main site that Aonuma actually read some of the internet speculations about Zelda Wii and said that some of it was correct. I think we need to be more careful on these forums. Miyamoto and Aonuma could be watching our discussions. And ST will probably give us a definative placement of the FS games either way and ZW actually might be a reboot.

[Raien]

I just read on ZL main site that Aonuma actually read some of the internet speculations about Zelda Wii and said that some of it was correct. I think we need to be more careful on these forums. Miyamoto and Aonuma could be watching our discussions. And ST will probably give us a definative placement of the FS games either way and ZW actually might be a reboot.

I think it's more a case of "A stopped clock is right twice a day". When you consider the hundreds, if not thousands, of people who talk about Zelda Wii, someone is inevitably going to make an accurate guess about the game.

[SOAP]

I just read on ZL main site that Aonuma actually read some of the internet speculations about Zelda Wii and said that some of it was correct. I think we need to be more careful on these forums. Miyamoto and Aonuma could be watching our discussions. And ST will probably give us a definative placement of the FS games either way and ZW actually might be a reboot.

I think it's more a case of "A stopped clock is right twice a day". When you consider the hundreds, if not thousands, of people who talk about Zelda Wii, someone is inevitably going to make an accurate guess about the game.

But [img]http://forums.legendsalliance.com/public/ALOT.png[/img] of us are drawing very simmilar conclusions. Either that or I'm not getting around much on the web.

[Person]

I still don't get where people are pulling the whole "ST is going to tell us where the FS games go" from. The only thing remotely similar to Four Swords we've seen is the Tears of Light, which have more in common with TP than with FSA.

The problem I see with most timeline theorizers is that they assume that Nintendo are bound by a single pre-set timeline and that all the games are essentially filling in plot holes. If anything, the new directions that ST and ZW are taking seem to indicate that they've long since abandoned that idea and are trying to actually write new plots for once.

As for Ganon's death quote in TP, I just take that as another ALttP foreshadowing that doesn't need any more explanation. Putting another game with Ganon in between TP and ALttP would probably create more plot holes than it fills.

I think the speculation that Aonuma is commenting on is the terribly obvious "the girl is the Master Sword," much like the "Link is the wolf" speculation we got after early TP trailers.

[ganonlord6000]

I still don't get where people are pulling the whole "ST is going to tell us where the FS games go" from. The only thing remotely similar to Four Swords we've seen is the Tears of Light, which have more in common with TP than with FSA.

The problem I see with most timeline theorizers is that they assume that Nintendo are bound by a single pre-set timeline and that all the games are essentially filling in plot holes. If anything, the new directions that ST and ZW are taking seem to indicate that they've long since abandoned that idea and are trying to actually write new plots for once.

As for Ganon's death quote in TP, I just take that as another ALttP foreshadowing that doesn't need any more explanation. Putting another game with Ganon in between TP and ALttP would probably create more plot holes than it fills.

I think the speculation that Aonuma is commenting on is the terribly obvious "the girl is the Master Sword," much like the "Link is the wolf" speculation we got after early TP trailers.

Possibly. And I am saying that ST will either foreshadow the FS games or it won't. If we know where TMC goes, then placing FS and FSA will be easy. And I watched an interview with Aonuma on ZI yesterday and he mentioned something about the timeline. TP should foreshadow FSA, the most likely IW if it goes from OOT to FSA.

[SOAP]

St doesn't need to foreshadow the FS games. PH alraedy did that. ST will either reinforce the connections PH already craeted or retcon them as something else entirely and put the whole thing to rest. The Tears of Light ST do not have anything in common with the ones in TP other than it's name. If anything they're simmilar to Sands of Hours from PH, which in turn are simmilar to Force Gems.

[ganonlord6000]

St doesn't need to foreshadow the FS games. PH alraedy did that. ST will either reinforce the connections PH already craeted or retcon them as something else entirely and put the whole thing to rest. The Tears of Light ST do not have anything in common with the ones in TP other than it's name. If anything they're simmilar to Sands of Hours from PH, which in turn are simmilar to Force Gems.

It probably won't. And since TMC, due to its landmarks and geography, can only go before OOT or after TWW. I guess where you place FSA depends on your placement of TMC. And PH does imply that TMC's backstory has to occur long before it. And since TMC is only 100 years later, it must be first.

[MikePetersSucks]

And PH does imply that TMC's backstory has to occur long before it.

How?

[Erimgard]

And PH does imply that TMC's backstory has to occur long before it.

How?

The Ghost Ship, which was designed to steal Force, sought Zelda out for her "bold and vibrant soul". Some people interpret this to mean that she had the Light Force in her, which was granted to the Zelda line in tMC's backstory.

Far from concrete.

[SOAP]

And PH does imply that TMC's backstory has to occur long before it.

How?

The Ghost Ship, which was designed to steal Force, sought Zelda out for her "bold and vibrant soul". Some people interpret this to mean that she had the Light Force in her, which was granted to the Zelda line in tMC's backstory.

Far from concrete.

Funny. That's the same reason I think TMC comes after PH (and ST by that extension). In PH, Tetra gets sought out because she has an unusual life force. By TMC this knowledge becomes esoteric and is revealed on stain-glass window deep in the castle from ancient times. Either Tetra was the first to be discovered to wield the Light Force, and it's her as Zelda that's depicted on the window (or ST Zelda) or TMC Zelda was the first and Tetra is simply another descendant with the Light Force. In which case the stain glass window is just a prophetic vision of TMC Zelda or another Zelda we don't know about (Maybe OoT Zelda *shrug*).

Preferably I believe the former. ST will either back this up by filling in the gap between PH and TMC or totally prove me wrong and make me look like a total jackass. Oh well.

[Sir Turtlelot]

Personally, I hope that ST confirms the FS trilogy's placement as post WW, but that's just me.

I think it would clear up a few confusing things.

[MikePetersSucks]

Funny. That's the same reason I think TMC comes after PH (and ST by that extension). In PH, Tetra gets sought out because she has an unusual life force. By TMC this knowledge becomes esoteric and is revealed on stain-glass window deep in the castle from ancient times. Either Tetra was the first to be discovered to wield the Light Force, and it's her as Zelda that's depicted on the window (or ST Zelda) or TMC Zelda was the first and Tetra is simply another descendant with the Light Force. In which case the stain glass window is just a prophetic vision of TMC Zelda or another Zelda we don't know about (Maybe OoT Zelda *shrug*).

But what about the whole thing about the Light Force being a gift from the Minish at the same time that a whole bunch of demons were sealed in a chest with the Picori Blade? That chest would've been lost if you try and put TWW/PH inbetween TMC and it's backstory, dude.

[Nameless_Joe]

I really doubt that the new wii zelda will have a meaningful connection to the previous games. I think it's going to be a non-sequitur based upon the franchise's most well-known weapon.

[Masamune]

I think it will either reference Twilight Princess or Ocarina of Time. I wouldn't count on any tangible connections besides that.

[ganonlord6000]

Personally, I hope that ST confirms the FS trilogy's placement as post WW, but that's just me.

I think it would clear up a few confusing things.

Yeah. Either all FS games after TWW or TMC first and FS and FSA in the CT. If we can get that much, the timeline is practically given to us. I think I have timeline with the FS games after TWW on this site somewhere, but here is how I think a timleine would go with the FS games on the AT:

/TWW/PH-ST-TMC-FS/FSA-LOZ/AOL
OOT
\MM-TP-ALTTP/LA-OOX

Certain games already have a somewhat definative placement. ALTTP, for example, is almost certainly on the CT due to TP. OOX is on the CT due to twinrova. I just hope Nintendo takes care of the IW story eventually so I can make all OOT=IW people shut up. I'm going against practically all of ZI in this arguement. They act like it's still 1998 and ignore the fact that the OOT seal was broken in TWW and Ganon died. Can anyone help me with this?

[Sir Turtlelot]

Well if the Triforce is gone on the AT, then the NES games have to go on the CT.

[ganonlord6000]

Well if the Triforce is gone on the AT, then the NES games have to go on the CT.

True. But the rest of it can work.

[Erimgard]

Well if the Triforce is gone on the AT, then the NES games have to go on the CT.

How can we be so certain that the Triforce is gone on the AT though?
Daphnes wished for Hyrule to be washed away, and for a hope for the future.

In response, we see the death of Ganon, the loss of the Master Sword, and the flooding of Hyrule. Yet, instead of remaining under the flood waters, the Triforce flies upward...why?

I'm not convinced the Triforce doesn't make a return on the AT. I don't really think the symbolism of WW's ending suggests the Triforce is gone (though more and more I'm believing the MS is gone forever on the AT).

[Average Gamer]

Yet, instead of remaining under the flood waters, the Triforce flies upward...why?

Possibly to place an additional emphasis on it returning to the heavens. Also, the Triforce pieces begin to fly away from Ganon's Tower horizontally when the ocean first begins to drop, so they may not have even risen above the ocean.

Edited by Average Gamer, 28 November 2009 - 06:25 PM.

[ganonlord6000]

Well if the Triforce is gone on the AT, then the NES games have to go on the CT.

How can we be so certain that the Triforce is gone on the AT though?
Daphnes wished for Hyrule to be washed away, and for a hope for the future.

In response, we see the death of Ganon, the loss of the Master Sword, and the flooding of Hyrule. Yet, instead of remaining under the flood waters, the Triforce flies upward...why?

I'm not convinced the Triforce doesn't make a return on the AT. I don't really think the symbolism of WW's ending suggests the Triforce is gone (though more and more I'm believing the MS is gone forever on the AT).

That reminds me of the first timeline I posted on ZD.

Possibly to place an additional emphasis on it returning to the heavens. Also, the Triforce pieces begin to fly away from Ganon's Tower horizontally when the ocean first begins to drop, so they may not have even risen above the ocean.

It probably returned to the SR or helped Tetra and TWW Link found a new Hyrule. Ganon and the MS are gone forever. At least OOT Ganon is gone (some people on other sites have a hard time accepting this in an effort to pointlessly connect OOT and the IW).