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#31 Chikara Nadir

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Posted 30 January 2008 - 01:20 PM

Well, then they're obviously slaves to the electronic or to the individuals speaking through it. ;) Anyone remember that old Leslie Nielsen flick Repossessed? Happened in that...plus some vomited pea soup.

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Posted 30 January 2008 - 07:15 PM

Well here is a interesting topic. If you at first believe it is wrong to kill someone turned into a zombie. Then that zombie turns around and kills someone you know are you responsible for that person getting murdered? I would say yes because if you had killed said zombie then that person you know wouldn't be dead right now.

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Posted 30 January 2008 - 09:56 PM

Well here is a interesting topic. If you at first believe it is wrong to kill someone turned into a zombie. Then that zombie turns around and kills someone you know are you responsible for that person getting murdered? I would say yes because if you had killed said zombie then that person you know wouldn't be dead right now.


So similarly, you should kill babies in case they grow up tp be serial killers? (Or zombies.)


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Posted 30 January 2008 - 10:23 PM

So similarly, you should kill babies in case they grow up tp be serial killers? (Or zombies.)



;) yep! ;)


no we would only want to kill them When they become a zombie and/or serial killer

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 12:46 AM

Yep! We only want to make their heads go splody if they go evils on us.

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 11:35 AM

what if we planted a explosive microchip in everyones head so that way if they did become a zombie we could blow up they're heads before they could say BRAINS

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 11:49 AM

Since it's your idea, you get the first implant! :mrgreen: Tell us how it works out! (I'll take my chances without one, thank you.)


And without further ado, Zombie Sociology 101:

1) If left to their own devices, would zombies mate? What would be the dynamic of their family structure?

2) If killing a person equals homicide, a king's murder is regicide, a parent is parricide, et al.; what does one call the act of killing an undead entity? Necrocide?

3) In Papua New Guinea, some tribal people believe in malevolent creatures called suangis. This sub-variant of the garden-variety (pun intended) zombie has had its innards scooped out and filled with grasses, leaves, etc. Are the ethics of offing one of these baddies different than killing a traditional zombie?

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Posted 31 January 2008 - 11:58 AM

what if i said I'm immune to becoming a zombie...<_<

1) i believe since they aren't fully alive they wouldn't be able to use...Mr. happy

2) the act of killing a zombie = saving the world :D i don't really have a real answer to that

3) no comment

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 02:54 PM

Does everyone agree with me that disregarding the ethics thing for a minute, the shotgun is the universal zombie killer?

It is, but the flamethrower is by far the funnest weapon.


however, flame doesnt kill zombies immediately, and then you just have walking torches that are doing their best to grab and eat you, which results in firey bite induced death, as the flaming zombie would catch you on fire...


anyhow...

Killing a zombie is self defense. Certain animals have only been known to kill humans as a case of mistaken identity, or out of severe starvation when no other prey is around, or if the animal is too old and feeble to kill said prey... where as zombies systimatically SPECIFICALLY target humans. Their intentions are known, and the threat is real. rest assured, if anyone reading this is in a state of zombification, i will hunt you down and cleanse you for the good of humanity!

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 04:02 PM

Does everyone agree with me that disregarding the ethics thing for a minute, the shotgun is the universal zombie killer?

It is, but the flamethrower is by far the funnest weapon.


however, flame doesnt kill zombies immediately, and then you just have walking torches that are doing their best to grab and eat you, which results in firey bite induced death, as the flaming zombie would catch you on fire...


Forget flamethrower. Forget Shotgun. MAGNUM! ...There's just something about seeing a zombie's head explode.... I suppose that a flaming zombie bite could get cauterized from the heat....unless you mean a gay zombie, in which case you're pretty much screwed. No pun intended. :rofl:

If it's an undead zombie, it isn't human and a clot of dead tissue is an empty shell with no person in it, so it has no rights. I wouldn't try raping one, though.

If it's a berserker zombie, you're pretty much screwed. If you can manage to kill it first, good for you. It isn't self-defense, it's self-preservation.

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 01:12 PM

where as zombies systimatically SPECIFICALLY target humans.

AHA. So you're admitting that zombies are not just mindless killers, but somewhat sentient beings capable of choosing who/what to let live or die?

Though I'd like to see the proof that they only target humans. I think we're just so preoccupied with the whole "zombah gonna get me, run fer it!" thing that we don't notice that the zombie man is walking his zombie dog, drinking milk from a zombie cow, etc.

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 08:43 PM

I can currently see in my head a zombie man with his zombie dog chasing a zombie cow around a field moaning "MILK... MILK!"

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Posted 08 February 2008 - 08:50 PM

BAHAHAHA. That's awesome.

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 03:09 PM

See? That's why believing that zombies have entire zombie-civilizations is so much fun. ^^

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 07:43 PM

Does everyone agree with me that disregarding the ethics thing for a minute, the shotgun is the universal zombie killer?

It is, but the flamethrower is by far the funnest weapon.


however, flame doesnt kill zombies immediately, and then you just have walking torches that are doing their best to grab and eat you, which results in firey bite induced death, as the flaming zombie would catch you on fire...


Forget flamethrower. Forget Shotgun. MAGNUM! ...There's just something about seeing a zombie's head explode.... I suppose that a flaming zombie bite could get cauterized from the heat....unless you mean a gay zombie, in which case you're pretty much screwed. No pun intended. :rofl:



Wrong, Blade based weapons are the way to go. With guns you'll run out of ammunition. However, a blade will last much longer. I'm grabbing a battle ax or a sword.

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 07:48 PM

He's right. Guns are a stupid weapon to use against zombies; punching holes in them barely inconveniences them, whereas cutting off limbs can stop them with one swing.

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 08:45 PM

Does everyone agree with me that disregarding the ethics thing for a minute, the shotgun is the universal zombie killer?

It is, but the flamethrower is by far the funnest weapon.


however, flame doesnt kill zombies immediately, and then you just have walking torches that are doing their best to grab and eat you, which results in firey bite induced death, as the flaming zombie would catch you on fire...


Forget flamethrower. Forget Shotgun. MAGNUM! ...There's just something about seeing a zombie's head explode.... I suppose that a flaming zombie bite could get cauterized from the heat....unless you mean a gay zombie, in which case you're pretty much screwed. No pun intended. :rofl:



Wrong, Blade based weapons are the way to go. With guns you'll run out of ammunition. However, a blade will last much longer. I'm grabbing a battle ax or a sword.

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 09:19 PM

Optimum zombie killing equipment:


- Shotgun (primary weapon)
- Magnum (sidearm)
- Sword (standard issue melee - beats the dinky little knife they always give you)
- Flamethrower (optional funtime weapon)


Mad props also goes to that crossbow in Resi Code Veronica, where you could have bolts with explosive tips.

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Posted 11 February 2008 - 10:17 PM

Optimum zombie killing equipment:


- Shotgun (primary weapon)
- Magnum (sidearm)
- Sword (standard issue melee - beats the dinky little knife they always give you)
- Flamethrower (optional funtime weapon)


Mad props also goes to that crossbow in Resi Code Veronica, where you could have bolts with explosive tips.


You could also get one of these to save space:
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Posted 12 February 2008 - 04:47 AM

You're all forgetting the length of chain! Wrap it around their necks and pop their tops, repeat as neccessary.

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 07:13 PM

You're all forgetting the length of chain! Wrap it around their necks and pop their tops, repeat as neccessary.


This is true, but wrapping chain around necks sounds like too much work. Especially since there could be a horde of the undead after you.

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 10:39 PM

This is true, but wrapping chain around necks sounds like too much work. Especially since there could be a horde of the undead after you.


Not really. Just one well aimed swing with a proper length of chain... When it contacts the neck, centripetal acceleration will cause the chain to continue winding around; all you have to do is pull. One swing and yank per zombie! ;)

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 10:45 PM

5 seconds as opposed to 3 for a shottie or (depending on your speed) .5-1 for a sword.

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 11:40 PM

You're all forgetting the length of chain! Wrap it around their necks and pop their tops, repeat as neccessary.

Why do that when you can just use it as a whip?
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Posted 13 February 2008 - 12:11 AM

You're all forgetting the length of chain! Wrap it around their necks and pop their tops, repeat as neccessary.

Why do that when you can just use it as a whip?



Panache.


Shotgun and chain are multi-purpose weapons; both lend you additional travel options. With the shotgun, for example, you can blast your way through cheap motel walls to access safer rooms. The chain can be utilized for climbing up fire escapes, etc. (I'm sure all of you are aware of this.)

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 12:24 AM

Panache.


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Posted 17 February 2008 - 07:04 PM

Zombie eradication becomes, so I've heard, somewhat of a routine affair after a while. A bit of flair helps to ease the monotony. B-)

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Posted 19 February 2008 - 03:36 PM

Lena's standard is golden... nothing need altering...


well, i'd replace flamethrower with molotov's.... but...



anyhow, swords are better than guns because they never need to be reloaded, but there is the fact that melee range is very... stunted compared to that of a gun... putting yourself in such close proximity to a zombie is just asking to get bit... its something to be done very sparingly...


a katana, surprise surprise, would be the optimum sword for zombie slaying... the curvature for maximum cutting makes the damage it can deal supurb. Katana's are light, two to three pounds at most..., which makes carrying it easy. finally, with how easily a tempered edge cleaves flesh and bone, rotting and decaying flesh and bone would give even LESS resistance, meaning you could use the same sword to kill more zombies than living people.

anything like a great sword, or similar, would be horrible... granted, you could "blunt force trauma" soft decaying limbs off... but a sword like that would be too large, too heavy, and arent designed for cutting... it'd be horrible...



as for pistol... as much as i'd love a .50 cal revolver... ammo would be much too sparse, plus the massive weight, paired with the cylinder only holding 5 rounds at any time, make it more of a burden than anything else... a .357 would be a great well balanced gun. its popularity would make finding ammo for it easier than the .50 cal, but IMO the optimum gun for zombie killing would be the 1911... .45 calibur bullets, paired with the fact that they are very popular, and widely used, would mean it would be one of the easiest guns to find bullets for. not to mention the fact that (i believe) they're still military standard issue. in a wide spread zombie attack, there would definately be a deployment of military force, and thus, many dead military personel, so, many 1911's to pick from...


as for shotgun, the standard ol 12 gauge is the best... it might not have as much power as, say, the 10 gauge, but once again, the fact that the 12 gauge is more popular makes ammo acquasition that much easier...

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Posted 19 February 2008 - 06:32 PM

Easy AA12 Auto-shotgun loaded with buckshot. back pack with 3 fully loaded 40 round drum magazine. Machete for when things get to close. Gas mask to protect eyes and mouth from infection/splatter.

fortify multiple safe houses in between the places where you travel. Make sure it's at least on the second story and barricade all access (Stairwells).

Society defines morality and as society falls apart those that have lingering qualms about such things would have to learn to get over it to survive.

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Posted 20 February 2008 - 04:42 PM

Easy AA12 Auto-shotgun loaded with buckshot. back pack with 3 fully loaded 40 round drum magazine. Machete for when things get to close. Gas mask to protect eyes and mouth from infection/splatter.

fortify multiple safe houses in between the places where you travel. Make sure it's at least on the second story and barricade all access (Stairwells).

Society defines morality and as society falls apart those that have lingering qualms about such things would have to learn to get over it to survive.


slugs more than buckshot... buckshot isnt anywhere near as effective




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