Navy Seals Against Kerry

On 18 Feb. 1966 the flip flopping,
wind surfing John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).

On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & $5).

Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972.

Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states, "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."

On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainbridge, Maryland.

Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released?

Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?

On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve - Inactive.

On 16 February 1978 Lt John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.

Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:

1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate.
3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.
4. Lt Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.
5. Lt. Kerry met with evil NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.

Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S. Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 & U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.

The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President .. having previously taken an oath...to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

Let's face it he's a traitor. The terrorists DO want him
to win the election. I don't want to offend anybody by this
post, but we have to face facts..don't we?

1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

Cite the law violated. Defend the constitutionality of such a principle. Explain why Free Speech no longer applies.

2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate.

First, prove it happened. Second, I again have to question the nature of the accusation- per Freedom of Assembly.

3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.

Unlike you, he backed up and provided proof for his statements. He didn't lie, as evidenced by the Viet Nam War Crimes Tribunal.

4. Lt Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.

Yeah, why should he be allowed to say what he wants just because he's "legally" allowed too? Any since when is raping children, burning villages, massacring civilians, and engaging in chemical warfare "criminal?" He's acting like there's some sort of United group of Nations that can just TELL us Americans we can't ravage an entire nation without even a motive?

5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.

Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S. Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 & U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.

Questioning leaders isn't "aid and comfort," doing buisness with Hitler, as Bush's family did, is. As for violation of Navy code, I don't know anything much about that, so I can't speak as to the legitimacy of your claims, but assuming they're legit, it's called "Civil Disobidience." Here's a word to look up: Democracy.

The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President .. having previously taken an oath...to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

Yeah, and it's great how the legal system is run by neocon talking points instead of a system of ordered and structured courts... Show me a conviction.

Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states, "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."

OH NO! What sort of dishonorable BASTARD would try to evade duty in Viet Nam?

Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training.

He was wounded. Three times. In the Navy. For his country. YOU do that and refuse to be brought back home.

...Even more reason for all of us to try and move to Canada.

Seriously though... where exactly did you get this?

Although if Kerry's guilty of treason...

EDIT: Well, Alak posted before me. I hate it when that happens.

He's not. Read my post.

I did... I was just mentioning that if he was, the action that would happen would be obvious...

He wouldn't be allowed to run for president in the first place.

QUOTE: He was wounded. Three times. In the Navy. For his country. YOU do that and refuse to be brought back home.

That's not true. And anyway the CBS documents
were fake, it's been proven now. All except
the signature which is easy to copy.

The CBS documents have absolutely nothing to do with this. You can't dodge's Bush's record by bringing up two pages of forgeries that are hardly related to it.

John Kerry does not want his service record questioned.
Bush answers more questions, means what he says, and
does NOT flip flop.

"Answers more questions..." He doesn't even allow questions to be asked. Once, twice a year maybe he'll meet with the press now.
"Does not want his service questioned..." He's released all documents and addressed all concerns in the interest of total disclosure. I don't think he minds, the answers are all good.
"Means what he says..." Yeah, but he's WRONG.
"Does not flip-flop." See above.

The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in
Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President .. having previously taken an oath...to support the Constitution of the
United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof." Sure there's such a thing
as freedom of speech but when it's against your own country, and YOU
are running for president....traitor. Kerry threw away his medals
by the way and called them symbols of our country, and stated
that he was PROUD of it. And that was recent, I saw it on the TELEVISION.

I already addressed that. Read my post.

Did you hear me though? Sure there's such a thing
as freedom of speech but when it's against your own country, and YOU
are running for president....traitor. Kerry threw away his medals
by the way and called them symbols of our country, and stated
that he was PROUD of it. And that was recent, I saw it on the TELEVISION.

not that Bush is wrong but since when is being "wrong" FLIP FLOPPING?
Do you even know what flip floppin means?

First, your sentances should be coherent if you're trying to win anything. Second, assuming they mean what I assume they do:

Sure there's such a thing
as freedom of speech but when it's against your own country

It's STILL protected. Here's another word: "inalienable."

and YOU
are running for president....traitor.

Dissent is the lifeblood of a democracy. I wound't want someone who blandly "agrees," any more than someone who's never used drugs, as the president.

Kerry threw away his medals
by the way and called them symbols of our country, and stated
that he was PROUD of it.

I would be too. He committed atrocities in Viet Nam, would you be proud of that?

I saw it on the TELEVISION.

I've also seen Rahfenstahl films on the Television. It's not exactly the most reputable source.

In a letter to Joe Scarborough of MSNBC, Col. George "Bud" Day, one of America's most decorated living warriors, a Vietnam POW from 1967-1973, and a proud owner of a Medal of Honor, writes, "I draw a direct comparison of Gen. Benedict Arnold of the Revolutionary War, to Lt. John Kerry. General Arnold crossed over to the British for money and position. John Kerry crossed over to the Vietnamese with his assistance to the anti-war movement, and his direct liaison with the Vietnamese diplomats in Paris. His reward. Political gain. Senator ... United States. His record as a senator of 20 years has been pitiful. Conjure up, if you will, one major bill he has sponsored. John Kerry for president? Ridiculous. Unthinkable. Unbelievable. Outrageous.

Why would anyone want a man/woman as president of the United States who does not have honor or character?

AND anyway why did he call the medals "symbols of our nation"?
Hunh? If it was his burning of villages etc. that he was referring
to why did he condemn AMERICA?

"In texas Bush's swagger is called walking".

Being attacked by conservatives makes him a Democrat, not a traitor. Nothing said there is a real accusation, just lovely lovely partisan hate.

Why is it that democrats always get accuzed of
being traitors? There has to be truth in it, buddy. And since when
is one of America's most decorated living warriors, a Vietnam POW from 1967-1973 JUST some conservative? He SERVED IN VIETNAM. He served
honerably.....

UNLIKE JOHN KERRY. And Arnold was a traitor.
Just like Kerry.

Why? Because that's what Nazis ALWAYS accuse the opposition of being.*



*I know it's in poor taste to call them Nazis, but I'll back this particular use of it up in a later thread. Not the issue right now.

And hey! I believe in the right to BURN The flag.
But not when your running for PRESIDENT. It only makes sense. And I believe in sometimes destroying your own
country....IF it is evil. THE U.S.A is not evil. Nazis=Evil jackasses.
Americans=Warriors for Good like G.I. Joe.
And the democrat symbol IS the jackass. Isn't that
interesting?

By the way that add comparing Bush to Hitler,
was a dumb move by the democrats.
Democrats=Demonic Rats.
And anyway even if you liberals think our country
is wrong it's still our country life or death so you
have to support the war.

And I think Saddam is a LOT more evil than Bush. And I'm not
convinced that Bush is evil at all. And it APPEARS anyway,
it APPEARS that you guys are so hateful of Bush that
you'd probably be happier with Saddam in the Oval Office.

Can't take these girly men anymore.

You apparently didn't even address this point I made:

AND anyway why did he call the medals "symbols of our nation"?
Hunh? If it was his burning of villages etc. that he was referring
to why did he condemn AMERICA?


Here's proof of MY accuzations to JFK (no not John F kennedy):
Upon entering the Navy in 1966, John Kerry signed a six-year contract (plus a six-month extension during wartime) and an Officer Candidate contract for five years of active duty and active Naval Reserve. This indicates that Kerry was clearly a commissioned officer at the time of his 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris -- in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent coddling of Communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article three, Section three, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare. (As General Vo Nguyen Giap is his witness....)

Thus, we refer our readers to the Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, which states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath ... to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

It is for this reason -- for his record of giving aid and comfort to the enemy while a member of the U.S. Armed Forces in violation of his oath -- that we insist John Kerry resign his seat in the U.S. Senate. He has dishonored his family, dishonored his state and dishonored our nation. He is not fit for public office at any level of government, much less, the highest office in the land. John Kerry should resign.

And now a quote from the first president:

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington

I'm probably the first republican to even question his patriotism
anyway. Noeone else really did that.

[quote]Originally posted by SuperMarioTail+-->

QUOTE(SuperMarioTail)

And anyway even if you liberals think our country
is wrong it's still our country life or death so you
have to support the war.[/b][/quote] Not quite. In fact, not at all. The Bush Administration does not represent the interests, opinions, or will of the American people. Again, I refer you to concept of "Democracy."

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