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#1 Fizzbit

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Posted 09 December 2005 - 05:57 PM

I call this the Egg Nog of the Drunken Bar Fight :)

"You never think twice about popping in a holiday video for your kids. What harm could that lovable snowman do? Think again! While you believe your children are being harmlessly entertained by annoying songs and bad animation, anti-abortion messages are being drummed into their heads. An analysis of beloved 1969 cartoon Frosty the Snowman reveals a chilling right-wing propaganda tool. Don't take my word for it. Read the synopsis:

Professor Hinkle, the evil and foolhardy magician, is humiliated in front of a classroom full of children when his magical top hat will not perform correctly. Displeased with the hat, he throws it in the trash. Representing a condom, the hat is a source of frustration for the magician, who, like most men, complains that it reduces pleasure and can impede performance. The careless act of throwing away the hat [condom] will soon create a new life form.

Not far away, a young girl named Karen has just "given birth" to a snowman. The hat, now representing the release of sperm, haphazardly blows throughout the town until it lands on the snowman. Frosty comes to life for a very brief moment, long enough to say "happy birthday!" It becomes evident that as soon as the hat is removed, the snowman is no longer alive. The children plead with the professor to give back the hat, explaining that at the moment of conception, life is created. The length of gestation is of no consequence -- at no point should life be taken away. By refusing to give back the professor's hat, the children choose LIFE over death/abortion. It doesn't matter to the children that Frosty would never know if he were alive or not; it only matters that life was given.

The rabbit, Hocus Pocus, also castigates professor Hinkle, just as many rabbit tests used to shame men during the pre-abortion era. The irresponsible magician denies giving life to Frosty. Disregarding the children's and the snowman's feelings, he selfishly takes the hat, thus "aborting" Frosty. A generic boy moans, "Aw, Frosty, we don't care what grownups [read: liberals] say, we know you did come to life."

The discarded top hat becomes the focus of a struggle between the professor and
Karen. The irresponsible father figure continues to harass the mother figure to give up her child for his convenience. He even takes up the familiar refrain of deadbeat dads, yelling, "You tricked me!"

Meanwhile, it seems that the entire society is out to kill Frosty. When Karen and Frosty attempt to buy tickets to the North Pole to save his melting body, the ticket clerk yells, "No money, no ticket!" Just because she is poverty stricken, society turns her away, essentially encouraging her to abort her child.

Frosty becomes worried that Karen is freezing to death and should return home. Who do they turn to for help? Hocus Pocus recommends the Marines and the President of the United States. Frosty rejects those ideas, knowing that since Karen has chosen life, the government will not help. The rabbit finally recommends Santa Claus, a religious advocate.

After many misadventures and hijinks, the professor destroys Frosty and retrieves his hat. Santa saves the day and returns Frosty to life. The power of Santa [i.e., the church] to impose guilt upon the magician makes professor Hinkle give up his hat and do penance by writing 100 zillion times, "I am very sorry for what I did to Frosty."

The problem is now what to do with Frosty. Due to her economic situation, Karen cannot take care of him. Santa becomes the foster parent and takes Frosty away from his loving family. And so we are left with the message that life begins with the moment of conception, and adoption is the best alternative to abortion.

So, the next time the extreme right-wing propaganda of Frosty the Snowman is on television, pass it up for the left-wing, queer, Marxist propaganda of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.

Lynn Powers is the author of Killer Art: Art That Has Maimed, Killed or Caused General Destruction Through the Centuries and desperately hopes you will buy a copy."

Edited by Fizzbit, 09 December 2005 - 06:23 PM.


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Posted 09 December 2005 - 06:17 PM

Now I understand: genius is literally a misfunction of the brain; madness that inspires. The only difference between Einstein and an alley bum is people listened to Einstein. And maybe heroin.

Edited by garsh, 09 December 2005 - 08:11 PM.


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Posted 09 December 2005 - 07:01 PM

Now I understand: genius is literally a misfunction of the brain; madness that inspires. The only difference between Einstein and an alley bum is people listened to Einstein. And maybe heroine.


What do you mean heroine? Alley bums are snorting female heroine characters instead of the drug, heroin?

Bah, this reading into things isn't so difficult.

I could also argue that Star Wars has racist Propaganda. Think about it. The evil black Darth Vader fighting against the heroic blonde-haired, blue-eyed white Luke Skywalker. Star Wars is White Supremacist propaganda! LOL

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Posted 09 December 2005 - 08:09 PM

But the StormTroopers were all white.

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Posted 09 December 2005 - 08:12 PM

What do you mean heroine? Alley bums are snorting female heroine characters instead of the drug, heroin?

I honestly never realized they were spelled differently. Thanks. :)

Also, the storm troopers are clearly brainwashed Klan members.

Edited by garsh, 09 December 2005 - 08:15 PM.


#6 Alakhriveion

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Posted 09 December 2005 - 08:27 PM

Sure, I buy it.

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Posted 09 December 2005 - 09:28 PM

Hey, cool subject.

Edited by Overconfidence, 09 December 2005 - 09:48 PM.


#8 Alakhriveion

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Posted 09 December 2005 - 09:35 PM

Hey, isn't Pro-Life LEFT wing?

No, Pro-Life = Anti-Abortion

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Posted 09 December 2005 - 09:49 PM

What? How dareth you change my quote!? Villianous knave!

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 01:00 AM

...Some people have too much time on their hands.

Verdict: It's a stupid kid's movie that happens to have some parallels if you read into too much. I could say that Harry Potter is converting children to practice witchcraft. Oh wait. It's already been accused of that. My bad. Also the Star Wars prequal trilogy could be against Bush in Iraq! Even though the entire concept of those movies was created along with the original trilogy back in the Nixon era!

I swear, people can't have an imagination any more without offending SOMEBODY. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go torture some poor denizen that resides in my mind.

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 02:55 AM

Remember kids, next time you put a hat on, you're wearing a CONDOM!

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 03:07 AM

...Some people have too much time on their hands.

True.

Verdict: It's a stupid kid's movie that happens to have some parallels if you read into too much.

No, I don't think this is reading in to it too much. I'm not familiar enough with Frosty the Snowman to say whether the conclusion is legitimate, but I don't see why you can't deconstruct children's movies. They affect us a lot and most people making them have an agenda.

I could say that Harry Potter is converting children to practice witchcraft. Oh wait. It's already been accused of that. My bad.

The connection there is much more direct.

Also the Star Wars prequal trilogy could be against Bush in Iraq! Even though the entire concept of those movies was created along with the original trilogy back in the Nixon era!

George Lucas has not had an overall plan for Star Wars since "The Empire Strikes Back." The prequels are beyond any doubt about Bush. "Anyone who is not with me is an enemy of the Republic!"

I swear, people can't have an imagination any more without offending SOMEBODY.

Yeah, why do people get so gosh-darn TOUCHY over issues of life and death?

Edited by Alakhriveion, 10 December 2005 - 03:08 AM.


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Posted 10 December 2005 - 07:23 AM

ASLAN IS JESUS!!11"2

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 08:24 AM

Roe v. Wade wasn't decided until 1973. So now I'm wondering how big the abortion debate was in 1969. But my initial reaction is that it is just a kids cartoon. I doubt the creators had any other motive than to make something fun.

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 08:39 AM

Not long before Peter Jackson's second Lord of the Rings movie was released, an online petition campaign arose against its release. Their allegation was that the movie was tastelessly using the World Trade Center tragedy to its benefit with the title "The Two Towers". Yes, apparently those involved in this campaign were oblivious to the Tolkein books.

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 10:17 AM

Veteran's right, although Aslan representing Jesus was actually deliberate on CS Lewis' behalf. I wonder who the White Witch is supposed to represent. Female rights? Margaret Thatcher? The Anti-Christ?

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 03:14 PM

Veteran's right, although Aslan representing Jesus was actually deliberate on CS Lewis' behalf. I wonder who the White Witch is supposed to represent. Female rights? Margaret Thatcher? The Anti-Christ?

Well the new movie has a clear agenda, they're not even trying to hide that.

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 04:41 PM

Veteran's right, although Aslan representing Jesus was actually deliberate on CS Lewis' behalf. I wonder who the White Witch is supposed to represent. Female rights? Margaret Thatcher? The Anti-Christ?


The White Witch represents Satan.

No, Pro-Life = Anti-Abortion


Well technically, I'm a pro-life left-winger. Does that count? Or do my beliefs in labor unions and high taxes for the rich not count as left-wing?

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 05:03 PM

Well technically, I'm a pro-life left-winger. Does that count? Or do my beliefs in labor unions and high taxes for the rich not count as left-wing?

Pro-Life is generally a conservative position. That doesn't mean you can't have it an still be a liberal: I myself am part of the Republican-Dadaist War on Art.

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Posted 10 December 2005 - 11:17 PM

I can't say with any certainty whether this Frosty argument is true, but it's possible. It's a very convincing case, so maybe I'll bring it up next time I want to persuade someone to my side.

Also, Horton Hears a Who is blatantly pro-life, and Alak is right about Star Wars.

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Posted 11 December 2005 - 06:09 AM

What? I can't believe so many people are taking this seriously. I thought the person was just bagging those who did stuff like that.

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 09:04 PM

Whoever wrote that has too much time on their hands. It seems to be a serious message rather than a joke, as most gags like these are short and to the point. If that is so, then I must say that the logic used to create such a theory is horribly flawed. As I remember it, Frosty melts in the end but says that he may return next winter. Also, the Top Hat's transition from contraceptive to means of creation is greatly lacking in thought. Also, the Top Hat was not from a magician. It was a tattered hat that mystically blew through the streets and had the appearance of mere trash but was believed to contain magic. If anything it signifies the imagination of children in the magic that animated Frosty. It is sad that anyone would make a despicable interpretation like this out of such a nice children’s' story.

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Posted 16 December 2005 - 07:57 AM

That was nothing but a great piece of satire, or maybe you guys get it and are playing along with it. Either that, or Steel and I, both being Australian, have a queer sense of humour.

Please tell me you ddin't take it sereiously, even the title of her book was written as a joke.

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Posted 16 December 2005 - 01:33 PM

I could also argue that Star Wars has racist Propaganda. Think about it. The evil black Darth Vader fighting against the heroic blonde-haired, blue-eyed white Luke Skywalker. Star Wars is White Supremacist propaganda! LOL

Actually, George Lucas is Jewish, and the Empire and the Stormtroopers were MEANT to resemble the Nazis. XP

Well the new movie has a clear agenda, they're not even trying to hide that.

WHO? WHO? ....Madonna? @_@


Moving along, good find, Fizzy. I'm not about to even pretend that I'm taking it seriously that Frosty's pro-life, but at least reading about how he's SUPPOSED to be is fuuun. ^^

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Posted 16 December 2005 - 01:48 PM

Whoever wrote that has too much time on their hands. It seems to be a serious message rather than a joke, as most gags like these are short and to the point. If that is so, then I must say that the logic used to create such a theory is horribly flawed. As I remember it, Frosty melts in the end but says that he may return next winter. Also, the Top Hat's transition from contraceptive to means of creation is greatly lacking in thought. Also, the Top Hat was not from a magician. It was a tattered hat that mystically blew through the streets and had the appearance of mere trash but was believed to contain magic. If anything it signifies the imagination of children in the magic that animated Frosty. It is sad that anyone would make a despicable interpretation like this out of such a nice children’s' story.


I'm not sure about the other guys but I was playing along. However, I find it interesting in what different ways you can interpret movies.

So, the latest Narnia movie isn't hiding its secret Christian propaganda agenda? How so?

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Posted 16 December 2005 - 08:20 PM

That was nothing but a great piece of satire, or maybe you guys get it and are playing along with it. Either that, or Steel and I, both being Australian, have a queer sense of humour.

Please tell me you ddin't take it sereiously, even the title of her book was written as a joke.


It's not just because you're Aussie. I'm American and I'm just as horrified as Steel.

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 12:45 PM

So, the latest Narnia movie isn't hiding its secret Christian propaganda agenda? How so?


By not saying that there isn't any Christian propaganda agenda.

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 02:46 PM

But there is no agenda. At least not by the people behind the film. They were quoted in USA Today saying they just want people to go see it and enjoy themsleves, taking away from it what they will.

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Posted 22 February 2006 - 10:29 PM

This has to be the biggest load of bull crap I have ever heard.

I'm pro choice, and even I don't see the pro-life propaganda in this.

People have to much time on their hands.

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Posted 24 February 2006 - 12:29 AM

I'm so glad you went to the trouble of reviving this dead thread. Now I can clearly see that a thread meant to be humorous in the first place is a load of crap. Thank you ever so much for opening my eyes. Preach on, brother!




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