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[Mad Scrub]

Why does Young Link have the ToC? Simple. Everytime Link travels back in time he does not travel back to when he drew the MS for the first time. This would be pointless for many reasons. One, Ganondorf would break into the SR everytime Link drew the MS from the PoT. Two, TBoTW would have to be opened everytime you returned the MS to the PoT. And Three, Nabooru would be safe because Link had never been to the ST. Here's an example, Link draws the MS from the PoT at 12:00pm. Link then spends an hour in the future. Link returns to the ToT and returns the MS to the PoT. What time is it? 1:00pm. An hour later which means Ganondorf would have already broken into the SR at this point. Ganondorf makes a wish on the whole Triforce which causes it to split. ToC goes to Young Link, ToW goes to Young Zelda and ToP goes to Ganondorf. Simple. Some think that ALttP happens after OoT. Wait a minute in ALttP Ganondorf has the whole Triforce!

Solution! The ToC does not split in the Child timeline. Adult Link takes the ToC with him when Adult Princess Zelda sends him back in time seven years. When now Young Link returns this creates two ToC's. Ganondorf has already broken into the SR and is about to make his wish on the whole Triforce. Link returns to Hyrule Castle and speaks to Young Princess Zelda about his adventures and warns her about Ganondorf. She then (somehow) hands Young Link the Ocarina of Time. Young Link then goes on a journey to find Navi and encounters Skull Kid who lures him into Termina. Now seperated by the elements that made him a hero, the ToC splits into eight shards. Meanwhile Ganondorf makes a wish on the whole Triforce and it splits into three pieces. However, this time Young Link is in Termina so the ToC does not go to Young Link the ToW does not go to Young Princess Zelda and the ToP does not go to Ganondorf. The three pieces travel in different directions like Dragon Balls. Ganondorf has made his wish and Dark World is born. The future of Hyrule has changed so dramatically that the Adult universe breaks off and continues instead of changing and flows into TP and TWW. The Child universe then flows into ALttP.

Well. what do you think?

[mohammedali]

Why does Young Link have the ToC? Simple. Everytime Link travels back in time he does not travel back to when he drew the MS for the first time. This would be pointless for many reasons. One, Ganondorf would break into the SR everytime Link drew the MS from the PoT. Two, TBoTW would have to be opened everytime you returned the MS to the PoT. And Three, Nabooru would be safe because Link had never been to the ST. Here's an example, Link draws the MS from the PoT at 12:00pm. Link then spends an hour in the future. Link returns to the ToT and returns the MS to the PoT. What time is it? 1:00pm. An hour later which means Ganondorf would have already broken into the SR at this point. Ganondorf makes a wish on the whole Triforce which causes it to split. ToC goes to Young Link, ToW goes to Young Zelda and ToP goes to Ganondorf. Simple. Some think that ALttP happens after OoT. Wait a minute in ALttP Ganondorf has the whole Triforce!

This part is all fine (although some of the abreviations have never been used before "TBoTW?"). We've all accepted this as how the timetravel words since OoT came out. It's what we call the constant flow of time theory. i.e. When Link timetravels, he does so by exactly 7 years. Hence, if he had spent an hour in the future, then he will return to the past an hour later.

Solution! The ToC does not split in the Child timeline. Adult Link takes the ToC with him when Adult Princess Zelda sends him back in time seven years. When now Young Link returns this creates two ToC's. Ganondorf has already broken into the SR and is about to make his wish on the whole Triforce. Link returns to Hyrule Castle and speaks to Young Princess Zelda about his adventures and warns her about Ganondorf. She then (somehow) hands Young Link the Ocarina of Time. Young Link then goes on a journey to find Navi and encounters Skull Kid who lures him into Termina. Now seperated by the elements that made him a hero, the ToC splits into eight shards. Meanwhile Ganondorf makes a wish on the whole Triforce and it splits into three pieces. However, this time Young Link is in Termina so the ToC does not go to Young Link the ToW does not go to Young Princess Zelda and the ToP does not go to Ganondorf. The three pieces travel in different directions like Dragon Balls. Ganondorf has made his wish and Dark World is born. The future of Hyrule has changed so dramatically that the Adult universe breaks off and continues instead of changing and flows into TP and TWW. The Child universe then flows into ALttP.

Well. what do you think?

This part I'm not so sure about. Firstly to disprove it. If you are suggesting a split, and you are saying that Adult Link takes the ToC from the Adult Timeline to the Child Timeline, then that would mean there is no ToC for Link to find in WW. Hence it can't work that way. It also means there is another ToC in aLttP which is not even suggested or a reasonable assumption.
What would make more sense would be the Triforce splitting from Link after he journeys to the past. This leaves a ToC to be split and spread around Hyrule in WWUniverse. Then, when Link returns to the past, he either comes back to a point before the Triforce split (and perhaps this time it didn't and Ganon got the whole thing), OR he comes back after the split, but Ganon manages to get the other 2 pieces between OoT and aLttP.

Mohammed Ali

[Tri-Enforcer]

Then, when Link returns to the past, he either comes back to a point before the Triforce split (and perhaps this time it didn't and Ganon got the whole thing), OR he comes back after the split, but Ganon manages to get the other 2 pieces between OoT and aLttP.

This is perhaps the only way I can really see OOT having something to do with the LttP backstory--indirectly at least. However, if you think about it, things may happen differently when Link returns to the past as child. Whatever happens after this point--is not considered OOT, since OOT is what we (the gamers) have experienced. Any event that happens after the adult and child endings of OOT is obviously not OOT. So if the IW were to break out sometime after the OOT child ending (on that respective timeline), that event wouldn't be apart of OOT--including the part in the LttP BS about how Ganon gained the Triforce. I say this because we don't know if Ganon is still around in the past, and that he doesn't get his immediate chance to seize the Triforce until sometime later. Anyway, the IW may be an event isolated from OOT. It is this event, for one reason or another, Ganon obtains the whole Triforce instead of just the ToP. This would set up LttP nicely. Also, this particular way would be reasonable in the sense that Ganon wouldn't have to become the King of Evil or create the Dark World twice--even though that's not really a big deal.

[Mad Scrub]

Originally Posted by mohammedali
This part is all fine (although some of the abreviations have never been used before "TBoTW?").

The Bottom of the Well.

Originally Posted by mohammedali
This part I'm not so sure about. Firstly to disprove it. If you are suggesting a split, and you are saying that Adult Link takes the ToC from the Adult Timeline to the Child Timeline, then that would mean there is no ToC for Link to find in WW. Hence it can't work that way. It also means there is another ToC in aLttP which is not even suggested or a reasonable assumption.

In my opinion, the creators intended for us to assume that the ToC split was a result of Young Link being lured into Termina. The two ToC's thing is a wrinkle I have yet to iron out. Who knows, maybe some Picori discover it outside The Lost Woods and rename it the Light Force!

[Dai Grepher]

I think the IW happens a long time before OoT. That is how the Master Sword was already made by then.

That was probably off topic. I think that the Triforce of Courage in the future remained in the future when Link went back in time for the last time because the last time he was sent back was with the Ocarina. That sent him back to a time when he existed and had the Triforce of Courage. I do not think it can exist in the same place as itself because it is an object or power that is not bound by time. Therefore it stayed in the future and Link went back to time to where he already had it. Do not ask me to explain how I know all of this because it is an assumption I made for the storylines to work. Perhaps a better explanation is that Link left it in the future by removing it before we see him and Zelda at the end of the game in that sky-like area.

[Dai Grepher]

That was probably off topic. I think that the Triforce of Courage in the future remained in the future when Link went back in time for the last time because the last time he was sent back was with the Ocarina. That sent him back to a time when he existed and had the Triforce of Courage. I do not think it can exist in the same place as itself because it is an object or power that is not bound by time. Therefore it stayed in the future and Link went back to time to where he already had it. Do not ask me to explain how I know all of this because it is an assumption I made for the storylines to work. Perhaps a better explanation is that Link left it in the future by removing it before we see him and Zelda at the end of the game in that sky-like area.