[first off, i'm pretty sick, got fever, chills, dizzyness, and am just out of it, so please excuse my grammar. That being said, i have no clue if i spelled theories right. Thank you]
Okay, is Ganon just a big fellow in Wind Waker because of game design, or do you think it is for some other reason? Personally, I think it's because he's transformed into pig beast so many times that his metabolism just slowed down, so he kept the poundage from the pig beast.
Any other thoughts?
Maybe he used the Triforce of Power to make himself bigger, so he can feel better about himself. Everybody who wants to rule the world wants to be big.
Theories on Fatness
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Posted 08 October 2005 - 08:07 AM
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Posted 08 October 2005 - 08:33 AM
Well, some people think that Ganon's deep chested in TWW rather than fat, but personally I disagree.
So why the fatness. Well, who knows? Maybe he was just feeling his age a bit. The Master Sword had put a seal on him an his magic, somehow (despite his being at liberty, physically) by the time of TWW--maybe his magic is what was responsible for his longevity and he had begun to age and lose his buffness as he got older?
Of course this is where TWW's internal inconsistencies come in, eg Ganon cursing the Great Sea before the Master Sword has been drawn and "unsealed" his magic. Personally I suspect there was no reason for it, just as there was no reason for his theme seeming to change from Arab to Oriental and his growing a goatee.
So why the fatness. Well, who knows? Maybe he was just feeling his age a bit. The Master Sword had put a seal on him an his magic, somehow (despite his being at liberty, physically) by the time of TWW--maybe his magic is what was responsible for his longevity and he had begun to age and lose his buffness as he got older?
Of course this is where TWW's internal inconsistencies come in, eg Ganon cursing the Great Sea before the Master Sword has been drawn and "unsealed" his magic. Personally I suspect there was no reason for it, just as there was no reason for his theme seeming to change from Arab to Oriental and his growing a goatee.
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Posted 08 October 2005 - 08:39 AM
Well, it really is a big barrell chest though, unless he's wearing some kind of corset - the bulging area is above his stomach, in his chest area. His waist is pretty thick to, but it doesn't bulge out like a fat stomach.
Also, growing a goatee really isn't a big inconsitency, so I hope you weren't using that as an actual example of inconsistency, but just of there being 'no reason' - I mean, he changed his hair between the past and the present in OoT, so I don't see why he really needs any more of a reason than 'because he felt like it' for growing a goatee (well, because the designers felt like it, technically)
Also, growing a goatee really isn't a big inconsitency, so I hope you weren't using that as an actual example of inconsistency, but just of there being 'no reason' - I mean, he changed his hair between the past and the present in OoT, so I don't see why he really needs any more of a reason than 'because he felt like it' for growing a goatee (well, because the designers felt like it, technically)
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Well, it really is a big barrell chest though, unless he's wearing some kind of corset - the bulging area is above his stomach, in his chest area. His waist is pretty thick to, but it doesn't bulge out like a fat stomach.
Also, growing a goatee really isn't a big inconsitency, so I hope you weren't using that as an actual example of inconsistency, but just of there being 'no reason' - I mean, he changed his hair between the past and the present in OoT, so I don't see why he really needs any more of a reason than 'because he felt like it' for growing a goatee (well, because the designers felt like it, technically)
Meh. He has the look of a fat dude to me. He isn't broad shouldered or anything. In fact, his chest and shoulders seem to slope. Might just be the art style though.
And yeah, the goatee was an example of Ganon just doing something and there not needing to be an exhaustive reason, not an example of inconsistency. The "Ganon curses the Great Sea before the Master Sword is drawn and he gets his magic back." thing was the inconsistency.
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Posted 08 October 2005 - 09:59 AM
i told Ganon to do situps so that he could get buff,
he did two and a half, and then couldn't get up
he did two and a half, and then couldn't get up
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Posted 08 October 2005 - 10:51 AM
Terranix - I thought that was what you ment, but I just wanted to be sure 
Ganon is very thick necked and his waist is thick set, but not really in a fat way - just in a way that looks like it could support his giant chest. He isn't broad shouldered, but judgng by the way there is a very organic flow of lines from his head down his arms into his long, flowing sleeves, I think it might be a product of the art style.
Ganon is very thick necked and his waist is thick set, but not really in a fat way - just in a way that looks like it could support his giant chest. He isn't broad shouldered, but judgng by the way there is a very organic flow of lines from his head down his arms into his long, flowing sleeves, I think it might be a product of the art style.
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Posted 08 October 2005 - 10:57 AM
In most timelines, Ganondorf only went Pig Mode once before by the time of TWW
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Posted 08 October 2005 - 01:32 PM
Is this subject even necessary? Maybe it's just a difference in game design, or maybe he just picked up some weight over time, that does happen to some people you know. I wouldn't play into this too much.
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Posted 08 October 2005 - 01:42 PM
no, this thread serves no pupose in trying to find a timeline.
Sorry.
I just wanted to know why Ganon was such a lardass in Wind Waker.
Sorry.
I just wanted to know why Ganon was such a lardass in Wind Waker.
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Posted 08 October 2005 - 02:00 PM
I think it's the visual style, combined with his robe. Although, his chest does extend much further down than say, the sailors, who are a similar size.
For the most part, it does just seem to be him having a giant torso and virtually no legs. (please nintendo, don't ever do that to Zelda again, it sucked so bad
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For the most part, it does just seem to be him having a giant torso and virtually no legs. (please nintendo, don't ever do that to Zelda again, it sucked so bad
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Posted 09 October 2005 - 04:56 AM
Goatees are hawt. Shut up.
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Posted 15 October 2005 - 12:36 PM
Oh yea and maybe Zelda used the triforce of wisdom to make her head so big like a basketball. 
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Posted 16 October 2005 - 02:22 AM
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Posted 22 October 2005 - 09:48 AM
It's just that the gamemakers made it like that..
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Posted 22 October 2005 - 10:14 AM
I don't know why, but that is the first thing I've read in a while that actually made me "laugh out loud" XDOh yea and maybe Zelda used the triforce of wisdom to make her head so big like a basketball.
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I think the creators might have wanted to show Ganon aged in WW. And seeing as how he had been trapped for hundreds of years, he probably didn't get much excersize so he just "let himself go". Plus he had a different personality in WW that fit better with a larger body imo. Another thing is that Ganon and the King of Hyrule were two very symbolic figures. They could be both very large people because they stand for very large things. And then of course there's the art style part.
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Posted 22 October 2005 - 01:10 PM
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Posted 22 October 2005 - 09:45 PM
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Posted 02 November 2005 - 08:19 AM
i think it Might be a different ganon, like his brother or something, or maybe (even better) we are seeing Ganon from a childs point of view so everything looks bigger, (that also includes the king of red lions.)
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Posted 02 November 2005 - 05:43 PM
That's ridiculous. Ganon can't have a brother because only ONE Gerudo male is born every 100 years. Even if it was possible, why would they look exactly the same, have the same name, and both have the Triforce of Power, be sealed in the Sacred Realm, and be destined to be defeated by The Hero?
