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Posted 06 February 2005 - 08:17 PM

Okay I see now. So basically it is just your own personal thoughts about the character and how she is special to you. I happen to like many characters in Ocarina of Time as well, and it is one reason that I happen to like the game so much.

We really need to get back on topic though. How do you feel about Malon and Marin? Do you happen to like Marin more, or do you like Malon more?

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 08:28 PM

i like them both. marin lives an ideal life on a tropical island, while malon works runs a farm by herself. malon dreams of a knight in shining armor and marin dreams of leaving koholint. they are both very kind people.

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 08:45 PM

technically... ingo does lotsa work too...

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 10:29 PM

yeah, but he's ugly and mean.

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 10:09 AM

i think Marin = Malon, its prolly just a translation error... its just another character who appears in multiple LoZ's, one cant be modeled after another if they're technically the same character, plus, its not like this would be the first japanese- english name translation mistake

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 11:10 AM

Well I can't find the website anymore, but it translated the whole windwaker game from japanese too english. And one of the pirates tells Link that Tetra actually had a brother but he died so she became leader instead.



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Posted 07 February 2005 - 11:45 AM

marin and malon are different, please. but all subsequent malons are the same.
er, what i mean by that is that the malons since the first one are .. you know.. like link.. and zelda.. but marin isn't one of those 'malons'

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 12:01 PM

yeah, they're like the deku tree and the maku tree.

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 11:20 AM

that's a fine analogy...

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 02:27 PM

Regardless, I think Malon and Marin are equally cool characters. I should like Marin more, but I just don't. Not sure why. But she is/was the perfect choice for Link.

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Posted 08 February 2005 - 04:24 PM

Well I can't find the website anymore, but it translated the whole windwaker game from japanese too english. And one of the pirates tells Link that Tetra actually had a brother but he died so she became leader instead.

i remember one of the pirates saying the same thing in the english version, except it was her mother, not brother. maybe they changed it for the american version?

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 02:00 AM

Yes I think so,just like one of the pirates is gay! x_x they deleted that too in the american version!! In Aryll's letters she describes that!

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 02:19 AM

Well, he's still pretty *that way* in the english version as well, it's just not explicityly stated... I also remember someone mentioning once that Aryll's name in Japanese has some kind of connection with Marin's japanese name, which is why Aryll is always being followed around by those filthy seagulls. I think it was something to do with character notes in the Zelda Box.

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 10:50 AM

Yeah come on, look at his wrist and expression.. i knew it from the beginning. *resists the urge to make a buttpirate joke*
yeah come to think of it, seagulls ARE filthy arent they? i really wouldnt put food on my head to lure them towards me.. XD

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 12:08 PM

Those animals shit on my house roof >_

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 02:24 PM

Hm. The two do dress similarly, and the gull thing...

That's another thing that kinda turns me off about Marin. Who would want to be a gull?

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 06:06 PM

Um guys....

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The simmilarities between Marin and Malon are nothing new. But Look at ALttP Zelda! She's practically a blonde Malon!

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 06:15 PM

they all have different bangs.

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 06:21 PM

Of course. Different artists. Different art styles. But one can clearly see how the character Malon evolved through incorparating traits from both Marin and Zelda. The weirdest thing is that Zelda has that whimsical whirls on the side of her hair kinda like Peach does. Malon has that too. Marin doesn't.

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 06:26 PM

the pirate is gay? they edited that... however, they didn't edit the gay dancer AT all. its actually quite funny. the rainbow and the "hi guy" lol

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 06:30 PM

I believe one of the male pirates is still dressed as a woman in that painting in Hyrule Castle. Is that the gay pirate everyone's talking about?

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 06:31 PM

they never say that, though. he might still like girls, but just be "sensitive"
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Posted 09 February 2005 - 06:36 PM

Or he could just be asexual. And confused about his own gender.

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 07:08 PM

BTW, before we started talking about queers that be here, I was going to say, I was comparing Marin to ARYLL, not Malon.

But I LOVE the rainbow guy! That's hilarious, the rainbow. I just tell my little sister he's an Elvis impersonator.

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 08:18 PM

Does anyone else know anything about a possible Marin/Aryll name connection in Japanese?

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 08:43 PM

That would depend entirely on what Aryll's japanese name is because it sure as hell can't be Aryll. Aryruru doesn't sound right.

Oh silly Husse. You wouldn't know a queer if he came up and grabbed you by the ass. XP

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 08:55 PM

i wish i could fight the rainbow guy.

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 08:58 PM

I don't really see the connection between Aryll's name with either Malon or Marin....

アリル - Ariru - Aryll
マリン - Marin - Marin
マロン - Maron - Malon

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 09:08 PM

Thanks for that, Beno - I wasn't sure if there was any truth to that Aryll/Marin thing, just that I remember reading it somewhere... I think it was in regards to character notes given in the Zelda Box, but it might have been something else entirely. Still, the seagull thing sounded convincing, which is why I remembered it, I suppose...

Say, don't you have the Zelda Box, Beno? Is there any notes on things like that given in it?

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Posted 09 February 2005 - 09:10 PM

I am actually working on creating a translation for the entire Zelda Box. I haven't gotten to the character notes on Aryll yet (I am skipping around a bit, to keep things interesting), but I'll skim over it in a bit and see if I see anything about gulls or Marin in there.




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