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[SOAP]

Well the general belief is somewheres around the ALttP era. I believe it takes place some 100 years after ALttP but I once had a theory were it set the stage for TWW to occur.

[MikePetersSucks]

Well, We know they come some time after Minish Cap to the point where it becomes legend. Minish Cap is the first in the series, this has been proven. Hyrulians seem to forget all other legends when a new one comes around, and Minish Cap has the strongest ties with Four Swords (Adventures), so I'd place it between Minish Cap and Ocarina of Time.

[Doopliss]

Aonuma stated that they come first in the series, but I don't really have thought about it a lot, by the way, I don't think TMC gives enough proves to place it first, yes, it was Link's first quest, but which Link's? There are a lot.

[coinilius]

Aonuma said they were the 'oldest' in the timeline (FS is the oldest, with FSA coming after it). Some people have interpreted that as possibly meaning they come either at the very beginning or at the very end of the timeline.

[Trinbadman]

Oldest obviously means they should come first...doesn't it?

[MikePetersSucks]

That would work, but if you place it between MC and OoT you have to explain how Ganon goes from being sealed by the four sword to being reincarnated as Ganondorf once again. Personally I've been having a lot of trouble placing em though, so I really can't say much.

Simple. The seal was intended to seal GANON. Ganondorf only has to seperate with the Trident's power and He gets reincarnated I guess, while the Trident is stuck in the Four Sword

think FS comes after the TMC and FSA comes just before ALTTP. But then again I think:
TMC

FS

OOT
MM

TWW

LOZ
AOL
FSA

ALTTP
OoS
OoA
LA

I'm thinking about explaining my new timeline idea in a topic soon. (Once I fix up some notches.)

FSA comes directly after FS. they have the same Link. the LOZ/AOL part and the entire second part need to be switched around.

Aonuma stated that they come first in the series, but I don't really have thought about it a lot, by the way, I don't think TMC gives enough proves to place it first, yes, it was Link's first quest, but which Link's? There are a lot.

How about the fact that it's the origin story of Link's hat. Also, Aonuma probably meant ALL Link's, since They might share a soul. and since It is completely undeniable that TMC comes FS/FSA, and they come before OOT, well....yea.

Oldest obviously means they should come first...doesn't it?

Yup. I don't see how anyone could interpret it otherwise. unless they were like, autistic or something.

[Doopliss]

You can believe in multiple Ganondorfs but not in multiple Ganons.

[SOAP]

^ And one of the Ganondorfs must come BEFORE the one and only Ganon as ALttP is very clear that Ganon was once a man named Ganondorf who later became Ganon. Just thought I'd add that bit in.

Also Zangus. In FSA's intro, Link already knew that by pulling the FS, he would release Vaati. The Link from the original FS hardly knew diddly squat about the Four Sword and Vaati except from what Zelda told him. According to your timeline, FSA takes place [img]http://forums.legendsalliance.com/public/ALOT.png[/img] futrther down the timeline from FS than FS does from TMC. In that case, information about the Four Sword and Vaati should've been fresher in the peoples minds in FS than in FSA unless of course FSA comes shortly after FS and Link had already dealt with him once before.

[SOAP]

You know what? Just put them between TMC and the FS series. Actaully it makes sense to have LoZ and AoL next after TMC cap since TMC refers to the White Sword and having LoZ before FSA would explain where Ganon came from. Of course, Ganondorf Dragmire and the Imprisoning War would still come before LoZ. They'd just have nothing to do with OoT. But this is to help you out. I'd never condone such a theory. Maybe I'm just old fashioned but I still believe OoT is first. It just steals the magic away from TWW Link being the reincarnation of the Hero of Time. If TMC comes first and all Links that come after the TMC Link copy off of him then that would make TWW Link a copy of a copy. XP

[MikePetersSucks]

Ah yes, the whole thing with the Sleeping Zelda. That is the only flaw I have in my theory, and I've gone over it several times >.< (Oh, and the problem about TMC/FS backstory not matching up, but those are obviously seperate games, so I can't mess with that yet). Well, First we need to determine which Zelda it is. O_o It's obvious it's atleast Pre-TWW, because of how the King says Tetra's true name is Zelda. That limits us to somewhere around the OOT area, but that doesn't make any sense due to the Triforce being in the Sacred Realm BEFORE OOT, and that it's split up during/after OOT. T.T damn you, AOL! DAMN YOU! *would've personally LOVED to kill off LOZ and AOL but keep the rest of the series. That way we can have LTTP as a perfect ending >.>; but I'm ranting plus technically, that would render LA last, but meh

[SOAP]

I'm wise. I don't mess with timelines. Cuz the minute I make one, something like TMC comes along and seriously screws it up. XP

PS I am currently working on theory though based on comments from the creators made over the years concerning the Z Timeline. First we had LoZ, then AoL. ALttP was once said to come after that though Americans believe otherwise. LA could fit anywhere. Then we have OoT which was said to be first. MM came shortly after OoT in one fork time line while TWW happened in another centuries later. Oracles... who knows. Then FSA came out and it was said to be the earliest. There's [img]http://forums.legendsalliance.com/public/ALOT.png[/img] of debate on what was meant by earliest but in oine interview it's certian that the FS series come before TWW at least. And finally we have TMC which is now the first in the series. So all in all, the series goes like this:

____________MM, LoZ-AoL, ALttP-OoS/A-LA
TMC, OoTC <
____________OoTA, FS-FSA, TWW

At least according to the creators.

[Doopliss]

Zangus, I would place ALttP last and LoZ/AoL before it because the Master Sword appears in the Oracle games, by the way, your timeline is almost like mine.

[coinilius]

The person from the backstory of FS is, presumably, the Link from the Minish Cap. It remains to be seen whether or not another game will come along that will make the connection more obvious (ie, contain events which actually match up to the events described in the FS backstory with the maidens and all that), or if you're just ment to accept that the events of tMC don't match up very well with the events described in the backstory

[Doopliss]

Yah, but I consider the Master Sword as an easter egg more than a real item. See if the Master Sword truley was in the game then there would be a bigger thing to it other than just through connectivity.

I would like to believe in a split timeline, but I think its a cheap way out of making the timeline. To make it a single timeline though is harder, but I feel thats probably why its funner to work with.

At least you can use it to be able to determine a specific order.

[SOAP]

Yah, but I consider the Master Sword as an easter egg more than a real item. See if the Master Sword truley was in the game then there would be a bigger thing to it other than just through connectivity.

I would like to believe in a split timeline, but I think its a cheap way out of making the timeline. To make it a single timeline though is harder, but I feel thats probably why its funner to work with.

I don't go with split timelines either but I'm trying to see if a timeline based LITERALLY on the words of the creators could actually work. I have many theories but no set timeline.

The person from the backstory of FS is, presumably, the Link from the Minish Cap. It remains to be seen whether or not another game will come along that will make the connection more obvious (ie, contain events which actually match up to the events described in the FS backstory with the maidens and all that), or if you're just ment to accept that the events of tMC don't match up very well with the events described in the backstory

OR the Minish Cap was only meant to show Vaati early on in his villian career and was never meant to have anything to do with how he was sealed. TMC's ending might foreshadow a sequel but then again, so did TWW's...:s:

[coinilius]

OR the Minish Cap was only meant to show Vaati early on in his villian career and was never meant to have anything to do with how he was sealed. TMC's ending might foreshadow a sequel but then again, so did TWW's...:s:

Yeah, that's what I was getting at - the ending of tMC could be ment to lead straight into FS, details be damned, or it could be ment to lead into a sequel which then leads into FS... it's hard to say *shrugs shoulders*

[SOAP]

No. That wasn't what I was getting at. I'm saying maybe TMC isn't supposed to have anhing to do with the Four Sword's backstory other than both Vaati and the Four Swod are in it. Maybe it just explains Vaati's origins as a Minish. Maybe the Hero of Travels was somebody else. Who knows? It seems that Vaati is the new Ganon though. I hope we don't see him replace Ganon any time soon.

[coinilius]

That's more or less what I ment too, though, Mario Jr... when I say it could lead into a sequal, I really just mean that it leaves it open for another game, not that the next game would have to be a direct sequel to tMC - the Hero of Travels could indeed be (yet) another Link in another game. The FS backstory could just be something that is never going to be used in a game I suppose...

Also, didn't Aounuma (or someone from Nintendo) mention that the Minish Cap is the prequel to FS? I can't find the quotes anywhere at the moment, but they were talking about it's placement at some point...