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[J-Roc]

http://news.yahoo.co...-193820748.html

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Personally I think its funny as hell, the waitress shouldn't have been fired and the person should have been exposed... but thats my take on it. Protecting douches is one of the reasons society sucks and privacy laws are a joke in the era of the smart phone anyway..

[Sir Deimos]

I saw the receipt a couple days ago. That guy sounded like an asshole. The internet used to be a safe haven where you could bitch about things and vent. The fact that it cost her her job is ludicrous.

[deep]

Do people still not understand how payment works for waiters and waitresses? Their minimum wages are half to less-than-half what the normal wage is, and the deficit is to be made up via tips. You stiffing your server means they made a couple of dollars putting tops up with your bullshit.

And a pastor? Ridiculous. Preach charity, preach compassion, shit on the less fortunate. Spectacular.

[Kisseena]

I can't believe she lost her job. That's ridiculous.
That person just brings a bad name to pastors. People like that get me mad.

UGH.

[Oberon Storm]

It's not that surprising she got fired. She did post a customers private information online. Whatever you might think of the pastor's actions, the waitress was clearly in the wrong on that point.

[deep]

Meh, true. I think this worked out the best, though. The Waitress gets to upgrade out of Applebees, and the Pastor gets a lesson a practicing what she preaches thanks to public humiliation.

[wisp]

Was that photo edited? I can't even see the pastor's name the way it's cropped.

[Oberon Storm]

When I saw it at MSNBC you could see the full signature.

Edited by Chief Fire Storm, 02 February 2013 - 02:32 AM.

[Nevermind]

Likely actually gives like....a dollar to God...

[Veteran]

18%? Jesus Christ! Automatic tipping is bollocks.

Everyone in America should altogether stop tipping so that the country can't get away with paying serving staff below minimum wage. If everyone stopped they'd have to change the law.

[deep]

18%? Jesus Christ! Automatic tipping is bollocks.

Everyone in America should altogether stop tipping so that the country can't get away with paying serving staff below minimum wage. If everyone stopped they'd have to change the law.

I mean, that should probably start federally and not with a boycott of tipping. We'll be sacrificing a lot of hard-working wait staff.

[Sir Deimos]

What's wrong with 18%? I tip 20% at least. Actually I'm so lazy and generous that I probably tip more than that.

[deep]

I usually tip 20-25, especially if I only get a beer or two.

[Hero of Slime]

I think people should just be nice and give their servers large tips. I also feel sorry that this waitress was fired and hope she can find another job. It would be bad if she gained a reputaion as someone who gives out customer's info.

[Twinrova]

18%? Jesus Christ! Automatic tipping is bollocks.

I can't say I've been to many places that do automatic tips, so as far as I'm aware you mostly get to decide what tip to give. When I read about this story on Reddit the waitress in question said that it was a party of 20, and that I think parties of up to 8 people don't get charged with the automatic tip.

What's wrong with 18%? I tip 20% at least. Actually I'm so lazy and generous that I probably tip more than that.

Same. xD It's just so easy to move the decimal over to make it 10% and then double it, so that's what I do. If I can't afford to tip I can't afford to eat out. The only times I ever go below 20% is if the server is atrocious.

[Sir Deimos]

Well all places have an automatic percentage, but it is only applied to large groups. Called gratuity. Bringing a large group to a restaurant, constantly trying to weasel free food, and then bitching about gratuity? Yeah. Priest is the worst person ever. Worse than Hitler. Maybe not as bad as Hitler.

[Twinrova]

That's probably why I never see it then. I could probably count on one hand the number of times I've been to restaurants with large groups of people. xD

[TheAvengerLever]

God is watching. Idiots.

[Veteran]

Well all places have an automatic percentage, but it is only applied to large groups. Called gratuity.

I don't understand this. Surely this penalises large groups. The 'tip' is choosing that restaurant in the first place. Are they not grateful a large group walks in the door? Reward their custom by slapping them with a higher bill! Yeah, that makes sense.


Just to clarify (since I'm aware my rants about tipping make look like a dick!) I do actually tip. When the meal and service have been up to my expectations. It is different here though since waiting staff don't have an illegally low wage.

But automatic tips? No way. They'll get what I think the meal was worth. And the tip will go to the waiter or waitress who served my table, none of this shared tipping nonsense.

[Twinrova]

Large groups require a shit ton more work and they typically stay in the restaurant longer, which takes up more room and prevents other smaller groups from coming in and spending money there. That's my guess, anyway!

[Sir Deimos]

That's exactly it. And as far as I know 100% of my tip goes to the waiter/waitress.

[Oberon Storm]

I think it might only be the smaller places that share tips. I know most bars around my town share tips.

[arunma]

Haha, it's good to have a more low-key Contro topic once in awhile. Anyway...

1.) I totally agree that tipping is bullshit. Best to pay waiters more and just not have any of us tip. Yeah, tipping gives an incentive for waiters to give good service, but by that logic we should pay college professors on tip too. Paying people well also makes them serve their customers well.

2.) Given that tipping isn't going away in the near future, I almost always give more than 15%. This is how the poor guy makes most of his money. And if it's a pizza delivery guy, this is likely the only way he makes money, so tipping is pretty important. (Or if it's a girl, I tip based on breast size.)

3.) If you're going strictly by the books, I guess it's legitimate for the waitress to get axed. Leave the note out of it for a minute: how would you feel if you gave a shitty tip and your name ended up all over the Interwebz? That's probably against some privacy policy. Incidentally Wisp, if you see the full photo, the pastor's name is visible, so yeah that's no good...

4.) Given what I said above, I think the waitress just posted the photo because it was funny. Firing her was pretty lame.

5.) The pastor says she feels stupid for writing that. How about trying to get this chick her job back or something?

[wisp]

I agree it's bullshit that we have to tip no matter what just to make sure the server gets paid what they deserve. I don't understand how restaurants get away with that below-minimum-wage shit. It pisses me off that tipping is something that I *have* to do in order not to be seen as some kind of low-life. The restaurant should pay their servers minimum wage and tips should come in addition.

I do tip, though, and I try to do closer to 20% at least, because I usually don't have expensive tabs, so 15% of a small tab is kind of lame. I get embarrassed if I'm with a group that leaves a lousy tip, because so many servers have to share their tips with other employees. And if I come into a restaurant late-ish and they have to stay an extra 5 or 10 minutes, I try to make it an extra good tip to make it worth having to stay.

And I guess I haven't seen the full photo then. I looked around a bit to see if I could find it but all I ever found was the cropped version. Seems like kind of a "duh" sort of thing though... if you're going to post a picture of someone's shitty tip, crop their name out first.

[Oberon Storm]

I do not abide by the mindset that says I need to able to tip in order to eat. If I have enough to get the meal then that's all I need.

[Elvenlord]

Well, to be fair, the amount of tip we pay should be in the meal prices anyways, since without mandatory tipping servers would have to actually be paid minimum wage, which would be paid for with higher prices.

[Showsni]

Tipping just distresses me generally. I think that might well have been the worst part about visiting America; I hate to think people are judging me, and if you're in a situation where it's ecxpected you give someone some money then they're definitely going to be judging you if you get the amount wrong. But my general inclination is just to not tip at all, because I'm not at all used to it. Net result is I probably ended up over tipping, but oh well.

Does seem a bit harsh on the waitress, but I guess she should have blurred out the cutomer's name. And the pastor is comparing giving tips to tithing? Seems like a pretty unchristian attitude...

[arunma]

Tipping just distresses me generally. I think that might well have been the worst part about visiting America; I hate to think people are judging me, and if you're in a situation where it's ecxpected you give someone some money then they're definitely going to be judging you if you get the amount wrong. But my general inclination is just to not tip at all, because I'm not at all used to it. Net result is I probably ended up over tipping, but oh well.

Does seem a bit harsh on the waitress, but I guess she should have blurred out the cutomer's name. And the pastor is comparing giving tips to tithing? Seems like a pretty unchristian attitude...

Apparently it's even worse in France. There it's basically considered stealing if you don't tip. Not sure if it's actually written anywhere on the bill, though.

[Steel Samurai]

Uh. I was just in France and everything I read said that tipping was a nice gesture for good service but not even close to US levels of expectation. Good thing too, for as much as the meal costs.

[arunma]

Shows how much my high school French teacher knows.