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#1 SOAP

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Posted 04 June 2011 - 01:25 AM

Your main story arc is this:

............/TWW/PH-ST
SS-OOT
........... \MM-TP-ALTTP/AST/LA-LOZ/AOL-OOX-TMC-FS/FSA


What if instead you had this:

............/--Hyrule Floods----------------------------TWW/PH-ST
SS-OOT
........... \MM-TP-ALTTP/AST/LA-LOZ/AOL-OOX-TMC-FS/FSA

Did you catch that? It's only a minor change but what if insated of TWW being parrallel to Tp, it's parallel to TMC in your timeline? All the time the games in the child timeline take place, Hyrule is under water and forgotten in the adult timeline.

It was just a random idea I had looking at your sig.

Edited by SOAP, 04 June 2011 - 01:25 AM.


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Posted 04 June 2011 - 01:45 PM

What difference does it make, really?

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Posted 04 June 2011 - 03:41 PM

Your main story arc is this:

............/TWW/PH-ST
SS-OOT
........... \MM-TP-ALTTP/AST/LA-LOZ/AOL-OOX-TMC-FS/FSA


What if instead you had this:

............/--Hyrule Floods----------------------------TWW/PH-ST
SS-OOT
........... \MM-TP-ALTTP/AST/LA-LOZ/AOL-OOX-TMC-FS/FSA

Did you catch that? It's only a minor change but what if insated of TWW being parrallel to Tp, it's parallel to TMC in your timeline? All the time the games in the child timeline take place, Hyrule is under water and forgotten in the adult timeline.

It was just a random idea I had looking at your sig.


Talk about random. I'd forgotten that I still hadn't updated my sig, which I do a lot.

Edited by ganonlord6000, 04 June 2011 - 09:52 PM.


#4 SOAP

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Posted 04 June 2011 - 11:10 PM

What difference does it make, really?


It makes a difference in that saying the amount of time that takes place between OoT and TWW is the same as between OoT and TP is a whole lot different than saying it's the same as between OoT and FSA (according to ganonlord's timeline). There probably was a lot of time that passed between OoT and TWW. Enough at least for people to almost forget Hyrule exited, despite they were sitting right on top of it. I don't think that much time passed between OoT and TP. The incident with the Twili are still well remembered despite it predating OoT. And if a significant amount of time did pass between OoT and TWW, then maybe on the child timeline a few games took place in that same amount of time.


Your main story arc is this:

............/TWW/PH-ST
SS-OOT
........... \MM-TP-ALTTP/AST/LA-LOZ/AOL-OOX-TMC-FS/FSA


What if instead you had this:

............/--Hyrule Floods----------------------------TWW/PH-ST
SS-OOT
........... \MM-TP-ALTTP/AST/LA-LOZ/AOL-OOX-TMC-FS/FSA

Did you catch that? It's only a minor change but what if insated of TWW being parrallel to Tp, it's parallel to TMC in your timeline? All the time the games in the child timeline take place, Hyrule is under water and forgotten in the adult timeline.

It was just a random idea I had looking at your sig.


Talk about random. I'd forgotten that I still hadn't updated my sig, which I do a lot.


You edited your post! :P Well anyways, sorry if this is a waste of of everyone's time, and by everyone I mean the three people who even bother posting anymore. I thought it was an interesting idea at first but I guess not.

Edited by SOAP, 04 June 2011 - 11:13 PM.


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Posted 05 June 2011 - 01:39 PM

It makes a difference in that saying the amount of time that takes place between OoT and TWW is the same as between OoT and TP is a whole lot different than saying it's the same as between OoT and FSA (according to ganonlord's timeline). There probably was a lot of time that passed between OoT and TWW. Enough at least for people to almost forget Hyrule exited, despite they were sitting right on top of it. I don't think that much time passed between OoT and TP. The incident with the Twili are still well remembered despite it predating OoT. And if a significant amount of time did pass between OoT and TWW, then maybe on the child timeline a few games took place in that same amount of time.


Who gives a shit? It's not like the two timelines interact in any way, and no matter how long or short the time gap is, it's sufficient enough for the plot to take place. We don't have exact figures anyway so it makes no meaningful difference aside from how many hyphens to illustrate your timeline with.

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 05:04 PM


It makes a difference in that saying the amount of time that takes place between OoT and TWW is the same as between OoT and TP is a whole lot different than saying it's the same as between OoT and FSA (according to ganonlord's timeline). There probably was a lot of time that passed between OoT and TWW. Enough at least for people to almost forget Hyrule exited, despite they were sitting right on top of it. I don't think that much time passed between OoT and TP. The incident with the Twili are still well remembered despite it predating OoT. And if a significant amount of time did pass between OoT and TWW, then maybe on the child timeline a few games took place in that same amount of time.


Who gives a shit? It's not like the two timelines interact in any way, and no matter how long or short the time gap is, it's sufficient enough for the plot to take place. We don't have exact figures anyway so it makes no meaningful difference aside from how many hyphens to illustrate your timeline with.


I do! And you can be a littler less jaded. Your attitude stinks and it's killing this forum. I've kept silent about it for a long time but it needs to stop. I'm really tired of you tearing everything down and not giving anything a chance.

Edited by SOAP, 05 June 2011 - 05:06 PM.


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Posted 05 June 2011 - 06:30 PM

It makes a difference in that saying the amount of time that takes place between OoT and TWW is the same as between OoT and TP is a whole lot different than saying it's the same as between OoT and FSA (according to ganonlord's timeline). There probably was a lot of time that passed between OoT and TWW. Enough at least for people to almost forget Hyrule exited, despite they were sitting right on top of it. I don't think that much time passed between OoT and TP. The incident with the Twili are still well remembered despite it predating OoT. And if a significant amount of time did pass between OoT and TWW, then maybe on the child timeline a few games took place in that same amount of time.


I don't really have much of a problem with the differences in historical recollection in the two timelines, since the flood does a reasonably decent job of explaining why memories of Hyrule are lost over time. Normally I'd agree with MPS that how the timing of the different games shouldn't really matter, but since I think of some of TP's events and themes as being consciously made parallel to WW's, I like to imagine the two occurring concurrently as well. It pleases me on an aesthetic level. :P

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 11:57 PM


It makes a difference in that saying the amount of time that takes place between OoT and TWW is the same as between OoT and TP is a whole lot different than saying it's the same as between OoT and FSA (according to ganonlord's timeline). There probably was a lot of time that passed between OoT and TWW. Enough at least for people to almost forget Hyrule exited, despite they were sitting right on top of it. I don't think that much time passed between OoT and TP. The incident with the Twili are still well remembered despite it predating OoT. And if a significant amount of time did pass between OoT and TWW, then maybe on the child timeline a few games took place in that same amount of time.


I don't really have much of a problem with the differences in historical recollection in the two timelines, since the flood does a reasonably decent job of explaining why memories of Hyrule are lost over time. Normally I'd agree with MPS that how the timing of the different games shouldn't really matter, but since I think of some of TP's events and themes as being consciously made parallel to WW's, I like to imagine the two occurring concurrently as well. It pleases me on an aesthetic level. :P


This was my originally belief in regards to TP and TWW. For all intents and purposes it still is since I'm a still an LLTer and treat the whole (OoT+TWW+TP) arc mostly seperate (by that I mean I don't let other games interfere with their relationship as these games are the most canonically connected and craetor intent shows that TP and TWW are meant to literally parallel each other). But I got to thinking what if TWW is parallel to games like TMC or FSA? It could explain appearances of simmilar characters, why the Force theme appaers in both the FS games and the post-TWW games on the adult timeline.

Also there was once a theory that TWW takes place at least 600 to 800 years after OoT and had a pretty sound arguement for it. I'm trying to tack it down now.

Edited by SOAP, 05 June 2011 - 11:59 PM.


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:36 AM

To be honest, despite Aonuma's statement of TP and TWW being parallel, I never took that as him saying they took an equal amount of time after OoT. Only that they both take place after OoT on different timelines and thus parallels each other. TP takes place centuries after OoT( say, 300 or so ) while I imagine that TWW is closer to a millennium. Though who knows. The fact that a whole new kingdom with traditions and all was able to spawn in ST in less than a century shows how the Zelda series treats passage of time rather awkwardly.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 12:37 PM


It makes a difference in that saying the amount of time that takes place between OoT and TWW is the same as between OoT and TP is a whole lot different than saying it's the same as between OoT and FSA (according to ganonlord's timeline). There probably was a lot of time that passed between OoT and TWW. Enough at least for people to almost forget Hyrule exited, despite they were sitting right on top of it. I don't think that much time passed between OoT and TP. The incident with the Twili are still well remembered despite it predating OoT. And if a significant amount of time did pass between OoT and TWW, then maybe on the child timeline a few games took place in that same amount of time.


Who gives a shit? It's not like the two timelines interact in any way, and no matter how long or short the time gap is, it's sufficient enough for the plot to take place. We don't have exact figures anyway so it makes no meaningful difference aside from how many hyphens to illustrate your timeline with.

Hey now. I know that you like to make sure your opinions are noticed, but swearing in an abrasive way toward other members is never okay, and 2) If you can't say something nice (or in this case, something that really adds to conversation), keep it to yourself. Everyone's opinion is valued, including your own, but also including everyone you disagree with. *runs off again*

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 03:09 PM

Holy ground, Batman, it's very strange to see Chiklin in this neck of the woods.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 08:25 PM

To be honest, despite Aonuma's statement of TP and TWW being parallel, I never took that as him saying they took an equal amount of time after OoT. Only that they both take place after OoT on different timelines and thus parallels each other. TP takes place centuries after OoT( say, 300 or so ) while I imagine that TWW is closer to a millennium. Though who knows. The fact that a whole new kingdom with traditions and all was able to spawn in ST in less than a century shows how the Zelda series treats passage of time rather awkwardly.


Exactly, who knows. But the thing about ST is that the fact there were already technologically advanced people already living there probably had a lot to do with it.

Also TP is a weird case too because geographical differences aside you'd think it was a few centuries after OoT but it refers to things relating to OoT, like the Hero's tunic, as ancient. Of course, TP could be referring to SS Link as people seem to speculate....

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 03:18 PM

Holy ground, Batman, it's very strange to see Chiklin in this neck of the woods.

I love to creep out from the darkness and be seen, but only when necessary. I'm the hero that Gotham LA needs, not the one they want. That, and sometimes a girl needs to be reminded about Zelda's timeline for her own usage. *flies back into the night*




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