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#1 Mystic Kitsune

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 11:18 PM

This idea just spurred up from the thread on which time period you would want to visit.

Anyway; I certainly don't.

Edited by Mystic Kitsune, 17 April 2010 - 11:18 PM.


#2 Sir Deimos

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 11:23 PM

This certainly has the potential to go to the contro section, real quick...

But the problems with living forever are the same problems with the theory of a traditional Christian heaven. Eventually, it'd become stale and boring.

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 11:29 PM

Let's keep it out of contro and just answer the question. ;d

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 11:34 PM

I don't think it has any risk to go to Contro unless somehow it turns into a debate of immortality related to God. So just don't do that. :P


However, I would not want to live forever by any means. I would like to live a full life, but many people can do in ten years time time what others do not manage in fifty. You may have forever, but still you must leave behind all those you love and watch them wither and die, leaving you alone eventually and unable to enjoy the peace and satisfaction of a long and good life.

#5 Mystic Kitsune

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 11:36 PM

I don't think it has any risk to go to Contro unless somehow it turns into a debate of immortality related to God. :P


Which, knowing this forum, is highly likely. :(

And yes, for the reasons mentioned above, that's pretty much how I feel about it~

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 12:23 AM

I can't really say I would not want to live forever. Obviously watching everything I know and love vanish forever in the time sounds kinda lame but if I was on my dead bed I might just reconsider.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:29 AM

I want to live forever. Obviously it would be superior if I had one or two people with me who also were immortal, but even supposing that that was not the case, seeing all I love perish is a price I'd pay. Not because I fear death or what comes after death, but because I want to experience human history. To see what will come next in technological and cultural development. To see what wars, empires, dictators, and statesmen come along. To be in the thick of history itself, as it happened. Because you would start to be able to figure it out, y'know? Reading international politics and predicting what was going to happen would become almost second nature.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 02:07 AM

No.


But if you were to extend my longevity long enough for me to travel to other star systems for a little while, that might not be so bad. You know, assuming you also invent me a rocket that won't experimentally blow up on me.

And if you give me a badass crew to travel with.

Then I can kick the bucket. No, living forever would not be great.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 02:33 AM

Ooh, ooh, me, dibs. I want that.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 06:57 AM

I would say that I would if living forever meant living as a young person...and if I had no family that would die around me...

then I would use my foreveverness to conquer the world! muwahahahahha!

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 10:04 AM

I do!

My memory's bad enough that I don't think everything would get stale, you know? I only have limited memory space; I think there are enough different memories I could make, that my mind can't possibly hold all of them. If I read every book in the world; by the time I'd finished, I'll have forgotten nearly all of the first one, and be able to go through the cycle again. I can read books in my room after about a month, probably!

I'm happy just living my life day by day doing mostly the same things. I'd be perfectly happy extending it forever. Life is brilliant, marvelous, fantastic; I don't ever want it to end...

I wouldn't mind dying, so long as some consciousness still carrys on. My worst fear is to stop existing. That really really terrifies me so much that I want to jump up and scream and cry out for help and the only way to live is to try and not think about it.


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Posted 18 April 2010 - 10:59 AM

I would want to live forever, I could start into the machines of quantum physics and try to be immortal. Jumping into higher dimensions might have me meet up with our leaders of yesteryear I want to meet the man who started it all.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 12:57 PM

^ I hate to say it, but I think that even that would become boring.

I kind of have an attitude, whereby, if I want to live for its own sake, then I would want to live forever - although it seems a self perpetuating/defeating motivation.
but if I want to live for any other sense related thing, then I would rather just to get on with the addiction and finish early.
I honestly think that I have little/no fear of death itself - only the dying - and the pain that it could cause to those who I know best.
perhaps its worthwhile to live for the purpose of contributing to other's lives, but I know that I am not truly there yet.

I understand that Dying is something that usually comes apon a person - and then they may accept it, rather than something that they ordinarily choose.
probably I will have motivation to live +1 days up untill my very last few, and somehow unless the variety of life went bone dry (if there is an omnipotent loving God in heaven, I cant imagine this happening) - unless it went bone dry, I dont particularly see why my wanting to live +1 days would end.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:16 PM

Everything stagnates eventually. While I can't say that I wouldn't mind having my own life extend a few centuries, I'd never want to live forever.

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:55 PM

I wouldn't want to live forever... no freaking way. One lifetime is plenty for me.

I don't understand the fear of nonexistence, either... the way I see it, if I don't exist, then I won't very well be around to care that I don't exist... it's not scary to me at all. And after I finish my one lifetime, nonexistence is what I'd prefer over all other options. :3:

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 01:58 PM

I guess I'll go create the "Are you afraid of Dying?" Thread :3:

Edited by Mystic Kitsune, 18 April 2010 - 01:58 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2010 - 03:10 PM

I can't survive from any moment to another. I've already died a million-billion times since I started writing this post, and that's if I'm even me. Maybe dying is a bigger change than all these little ones. But the size doesn't really matter to me. I wouldn't mind if the death change never happened, though, as my personality will never solidify anyway, and there will always be new cultural changes to explore, until I'm the last human alive. Then I could easily float around in space developing multiple personalities and talking to myself.

Edited by Keen, 18 April 2010 - 03:11 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2010 - 03:17 PM

No one has mentioned the Queen song from Highlander yet?

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 03:20 PM

Well I named it after that, yeah. XD

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 04:00 PM

Inteesting question. But qualify "forever." For example, if the universe ends in heat death, am I going to be floating around with consciousness but the inability to do anything? Sounds like someone's idea of hell to me. Now if you asked "do you want to live until the human civilization dies out?" I think I and most people would say "abso-freakin'-lutely!"

Of course with the heat death thing, the question becomes more interesting. You'll get to witness and participate in the events that shape the future and possibly end of humanity. You'll get to see if we kill each other off or end up in a Roddenbury-esque utopia. But then you'll be condemned to exist forever in a meaningless purgatory. Quite philosophical, isn't it?

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 09:06 PM

Forever includes universal heat death, yes. XD

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 10:14 PM

Inteesting question. But qualify "forever." For example, if the universe ends in heat death, am I going to be floating around with consciousness but the inability to do anything? Sounds like someone's idea of hell to me. Now if you asked "do you want to live until the human civilization dies out?" I think I and most people would say "abso-freakin'-lutely!"

Of course with the heat death thing, the question becomes more interesting. You'll get to witness and participate in the events that shape the future and possibly end of humanity. You'll get to see if we kill each other off or end up in a Roddenbury-esque utopia. But then you'll be condemned to exist forever in a meaningless purgatory. Quite philosophical, isn't it?


I dunno arunma, I think being immortal and trapped in a black hole would be worse. Living through and past getting crushed into singularity? No thanks.

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 01:53 AM

Well, from what I've heard, the universe seems much more likely to rip itself to pieces, and cause an icy death.


Which would be worse? Ice or heat?

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 02:43 AM

"I've been alive for four and a half centuries, and I am Immortal."

Maybe

How would my 'forever' would occur, through death? Enlightenment?
Depending on whether or not I had a weakness such as beheading
Children? Parents? Grandparents? Haven't dealt with death of a loved one yet, not sure how I could handle it or what I would do
Taking into accounts of evolution of things I think it would be kind of cool, technology mostly, although anything mostly
If I were to live 'forever' I would want some sort of portal device to travel between universes (Alternate Realities)
There are some other things I may not be thinking about right now, but for the most part a couple of things that come to mind

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 05:06 AM

I dont know if I'd want to live forever, but I want to make the most of the time I have.

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 01:34 PM

But if you were to extend my longevity long enough for me to travel to other star systems for a little while, that might not be so bad. You know, assuming you also invent me a rocket that won't experimentally blow up on me.

And if you give me a badass crew to travel with.

This.

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 01:45 PM

From death, neither seek nor shirk.

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 02:51 PM

While there is all the stigma that people think of about becoming immortal, I think it would be interesting. Seeing the progression of time across an indefinitely long term seems like it would be worth trading off some of the negative aspects of immortality. As for worries about the heat death of the universe, inevitable entropy, etc, it seems like immortality would lend the solution of seeing society develop things that delve into the metaphysical, and allow existence beyond the universe as we know it. Time machines would have to come around eventually, and then you could just dick around with the lesser mortals throughout time and space.
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 07:55 PM

Maybe I'm slightly insane or something. Just reading this thread is enough to make me almost terrified. (I'm kind of squashing the fear down). If I stop and think about it I might just crack and run around screaming.

And too many things make me think about it these days. Thinking about space, thinking about time, thinking about sleeping...

I can't stop existing. Mustn't. Will not. Shall not, would not, could not, do not.


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Posted 19 April 2010 - 08:52 PM




Pretty funny, I hope it isn't controversial, just a laugh. :)




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