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[ganonlord6000]

Does anybody have access to the magazine menitoned here? If we can affirm that this magazine really exists, then we will know where the oracles go on the timeline depending on the age of the magazine in question. Any info will do.

[Jarsh]

One of these may very well be the magazine the quote is said to come from.

Whether that website exports outside of Japan, I do not know.

For the record, the website where the two quotes disproving the '98 Miyamoto quote mention 64Dream stating that ALttP and OoX share a common Link, so that's two sites mentioning the magazine quote. Whether this was pre-release intent, I also do not know.

[MikePetersSucks]

There is absolutely no worthwhile citation or source as much as I can see, and even if there was, since when was some magazine at all reliable on the matter of canon?

[Smertios]

I think that really depends on whether or not there is an actual developer interview in such magazine...

[ganonlord6000]

One of these may very well be the magazine the quote is said to come from.

Whether that website exports outside of Japan, I do not know.

For the record, the website where the two quotes disproving the '98 Miyamoto quote mention 64Dream stating that ALttP and OoX share a common Link, so that's two sites mentioning the magazine quote. Whether this was pre-release intent, I also do not know.

Two sites mentioning it? That might mean something. Since it is talking about just the oracles and not the original project with three games, it might be accurate. Especially considering ALTTP link was a lot younger in GBA ALTTP than in SNES ALTTP.

I think that really depends on whether or not there is an actual developer interview in such magazine...

If it is, then we know the order of the old 2d games. First the 98 timeline being disproven, and now this?! What will be next? Aonuma stating that FSA is a prequel to ALTTP, TMC is first, and that the old games follow TP?

[Smertios]

If it is, then we know the order of the old 2d games. First the 98 timeline being disproven, and now this?! What will be next? Aonuma stating that FSA is a prequel to ALTTP, TMC is first, and that the old games follow TP?

I think it is more likely for him to confirm that either FSA is a prequel to LttP and that TMC follows TWW or that the FSS follows in the AT while the old games follow in the CT...

[Impossible]

How valid can this be when it says that Link and Zelda already know each other, which blatantly contradicts the game? The issues with this placement are pretty well known, and it would be unbelievably careless and stupid to have virtually everything about it contradicted in OoX... And just make it canon because of a boat at the end. Okay, but Link isn't a hero yet, doesn't know Zelda (or Impa), didn't leave Hyrule deliberately, and is visibly YOUNGER than ALttP Link.

Maybe this is another case of mixed messages within Nintendo, where people didn't even know where it was meant to fit and made the same shallow guesses (ZOMG BOAT=LA) we did? Hell, the person who drew the ending sequence might have thought it was meant to precede LA (though the boats are different, so who knows).

[Nerushi]

How valid can this be when it says that Link and Zelda already know each other, which blatantly contradicts the game?

Well, its an Japanese entry. Maybe he interpretated OoX differently? Japanese is ambigious after all. Either way, I deem it more likely that capcom did things the way they did to keep the story less external and more simple. I.e. They had Zelda introduce herself, even if they intended for Link to be the same one from ALTTP. OoX was pretty messed up either way.

At least we can blame the lack of quotation because of some stupid copyleft controversy in Japan.

didn't leave Hyrule deliberately

He does in the ending. Zelda is already back at her castle, and then we see Link sail away from a place that has a castle in its background. He was obviously leaving Hyrule...

and is visibly YOUNGER than ALttP Link.

The artstyle is also visibly different. Its style in OoX seem more anime-esque, if I had to say.

Hell, the person who drew the ending sequence might have thought it was meant to precede LA (though the boats are different, so who knows).

Well, that is kinda funny cause the only part that is not original in the ending is the boat, which has exactly the same form as the boat silhouette we saw in the LA opening.

Edited by Nerushi, 06 April 2010 - 02:49 PM.

[Jarsh]

How valid can this be when it says that Link and Zelda already know each other

Well, Zelda at least knew of Link since she dreamed about him, which is also why she goes to Labrynna/Holodrum.

[Average Gamer]

Well, Zelda at least knew of Link since she dreamed about him, which is also why she goes to Labrynna/Holodrum.

However, Link is still unacquainted with Zelda, meaning that the quote is flawed either way.

[Jarsh]

However, Link is still unacquainted with Zelda, meaning that the quote is flawed either way.

True, you'd think Zelda wouldn't need to tell Link that she's Zelda if they knew of each other.

[Person]

Unless there's an actual developer interview in said magazine, I wouldn't jump to conclusions yet.

[Jarsh]

To clarify something:

In a rough translation from an online translator of atwiki, it seems to say that during development ALttP and OoX had the same Link. It may not be the case now, but I think it just confirms that OoX hovers somewhere around ALttP-LoZ/AoL, which many of us suspected anyhow.

Edited by Jarsh, 07 April 2010 - 07:00 PM.