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#1 ganonlord6000

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 06:10 PM

OK. I came up with a new theory based on official statements.

ALTTP's Ganon isn't LOZ's Ganon. The only official statements regarding LOZ's Ganon was that he was an evil wizard. ALTTP's Ganon was an evil king. They had different goals. And I think it was stated in ALTTP that the triforce was bound to its current master until that being dies. ALTTP's Link got the triforce by killing Ganon.

In LOZ, an evil wizard steals the ToP and becomes the new Ganon, who is killed by the new Link.

Here is how I think events transpired from ALTTP to LOZ:

In ALTTP, The Ganon from the IW tried to use the triforce to rule the world. He was killed in the end and the triforce was left in the possession of the royal family. Twinrova tries to resurrect him in the oracles and revives a mindless raging Ganon, who was ALTTP's Ganon because of the trident. Both of them were killed.

Between the oracles anf LOZ, The sleeping Zelda legend occurs. Someone here brought up a good theory regarding this. The Zelda mentioned in AOL's manual wasn't the first Zelda, but was the one who began the tradition of EVERY female in the royal family being called that. We are never told that all previous princesses were called Zelda. Those were only the ones we see (some of the games are hundreds of years apart). Anyways, the ToC was hidden.

Shortly before LOZ, an evil wizard steals the ToP, is turned into a demon by JUST THAT PIECE, and became the new Ganon. He was killed in LOZ and there was an attempt to revive him in AOL. At the end, the triforce was reunited and the legend ended with the end of Ganon's legacy.

I think this is a very logical sequence of events.

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 12:52 PM

ALTTP's Ganon isn't LOZ's Ganon.


Are you saying then in your view that LOZ Ganon does NOT have the Trident? (BS Zelda = non-canon)

If he does have it in LOZ, then how if ALTTP Ganon =/= LOZ Ganon?

Between the oracles and LOZ, The sleeping Zelda legend occurs.


Are you saying ALTTP>Oracles>LOZ? I ask because your timeline sig says differently.....Just curious.

Edited by KJ Contrarian, 14 January 2010 - 12:53 PM.


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Posted 14 January 2010 - 01:37 PM

If he does have it in LOZ, then how if ALTTP Ganon =/= LOZ Ganon?


The same way every other non-LTTP Ganon gets a kickass Trident. It's not like it's allthat important; the tridents of other games needn't necessarily correlate to the Trident of Darkness, and it most likely doesn't.

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Posted 14 January 2010 - 06:26 PM

I agree it's a good line but some of the facts trouble me:
How is that an evil wizard turns into a pig just by touching the ToP?, the only way I've heard a change like this can take place, is by entering the dark world. Maybe he was a wizard moblin, not a man. It was supposed that no one have seen how Ganon was like in that game. Just a "maybe" I still have to read documents.

Ganon is the owner of the Triforce in ALttP? if it is that way, then that could mean one of the next things:
He somehow killed the owners of ToC and ToW or
He had the three forces in balance (This would make him a different Ganon from other games)

Since I was told Ganon of ALttP never left the dark world then... he was in balance?, he wished to be the Triforce owner?, didn't he wish the dark world? The Triforce never came out of the golden land then? Or how is it possible fot it to return there?

The Trident of Power is a mistranslation of the Trident of Darkness? a mistake I read from somewhere in the net? or they are from different games?

Edited by SheikahPeople, 14 January 2010 - 06:34 PM.


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Posted 14 January 2010 - 10:46 PM

How is that an evil wizard turns into a pig just by touching the ToP?, the only way I've heard a change like this can take place, is by entering the dark world.


Ganon uses the Triforce of Power to turn into a pig in OOT and TP at the very least. It's probably just a side effect of him abusing it for power, or something, like how the Triforce of Courage turns TP Link into a Wolf.

Ganon is the owner of the Triforce in ALttP? if it is that way, then that could mean one of the next things:
He somehow killed the owners of ToC and ToW or
He had the three forces in balance (This would make him a different Ganon from other games)


When he found the Triforce in LTTP's backstory, no one owned it. It was just sitting there. Most likely, it's just an oversight because the rule about splitting the Triforce hadn't been invented in the real world yet. My fanwank was that the Triforce split only happened once, ever, because the Goddesses didn't intend for more than one person to reach it.

Since I was told Ganon of ALttP never left the dark world then... he was in balance?, he wished to be the Triforce owner?, didn't he wish the dark world? The Triforce never came out of the golden land then? Or how is it possible fot it to return there?


I don't understand what you're asking, here.

The Trident of Power is a mistranslation of the Trident of Darkness? a mistake I read from somewhere in the net? or they are from different games?


They're pretty much the same.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 06:18 PM


ALTTP's Ganon isn't LOZ's Ganon.


Are you saying then in your view that LOZ Ganon does NOT have the Trident? (BS Zelda = non-canon)

If he does have it in LOZ, then how if ALTTP Ganon =/= LOZ Ganon?

Between the oracles and LOZ, The sleeping Zelda legend occurs.


Are you saying ALTTP>Oracles>LOZ? I ask because your timeline sig says differently.....Just curious.


I don't update my signature that often. Don't pay attention it at that point. I'm always trying to choose between ALTTP-LOZ-OOX and ALTTP-OOX-LOZ.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 01:44 AM

Ok then, maybe this is another topic but, how many people with the name of "Ganon" do we have until now?
I've started to think there are 4

OoT, TWW and TP a man from the desert
FSA, another guy from the desert
ALttP, one more of those guys of the desert
LoZ and LoZ2 an evil wizard from somewhere
Oracles... one of those mentioned, do you have any theory or fact of wich one?

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 10:55 AM

Ok then, maybe this is another topic but, how many people with the name of "Ganon" do we have until now?
I've started to think there are 4

OoT, TWW and TP a man from the desert
FSA, another guy from the desert
ALttP, one more of those guys of the desert
LoZ and LoZ2 an evil wizard from somewhere
Oracles... one of those mentioned, do you have any theory or fact of wich one?


FSA Ganon is implied to be ALTTP Ganon. Most of us think that OOX Ganon is either ALTTP's Ganon, or LOZ's Ganon.




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