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Posted 23 December 2009 - 11:22 AM

This is something I have been thinking about for a few months. Some beleive in the existance of aliens and that they have visited Earth in the recent past (I am one such person. It is impossible for Earth to be the only inhabited planet). But there are some that believe that Earth was also visited by aliens thousands of years ago and were mistaken for gods by early humans. I used to think this was absurd, but after reading a few books on the subject, I began thinking, this is actually possible. What does everyone else think?

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 12:50 PM

Ganon, I truly believe that we are not the only living things in this universe...

look at all the history on Earth..the pyramids the images in south america...the images on hieroglyphs



The history channel had a good program about aliens in our history....its a bit spooky to me.. o_o

but think about it...couldn't there be another race of humanoid creatures out there that just didn't screw up like we did? How far do you think we as a race COULD have gotten if we didn't let our differences get between us?

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 03:03 PM

Ganon, I truly believe that we are not the only living things in this universe...

look at all the history on Earth..the pyramids the images in south america...the images on hieroglyphs



The history channel had a good program about aliens in our history....its a bit spooky to me.. o_o

but think about it...couldn't there be another race of humanoid creatures out there that just didn't screw up like we did? How far do you think we as a race COULD have gotten if we didn't let our differences get between us?

A lot farther. But the ancient structures like the great pyramid speaks alien. I too, have looked at the history channel stuff (includung the pathetic roswell cover up). And it's Ganonlord.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 03:35 PM

And it's Ganonlord.



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There are a lot of different ancient cultures that have figures and pictures depicting alien/spacecrafts...it is amazing...that's one reason I liked that movie "the fourth kind" because it got into some depth of evidence found in our history...GanonLORD...

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 04:18 PM


Ganon, I truly believe that we are not the only living things in this universe...

look at all the history on Earth..the pyramids the images in south america...the images on hieroglyphs



The history channel had a good program about aliens in our history....its a bit spooky to me.. o_o

but think about it...couldn't there be another race of humanoid creatures out there that just didn't screw up like we did? How far do you think we as a race COULD have gotten if we didn't let our differences get between us?

A lot farther. But the ancient structures like the great pyramid speaks alien. I too, have looked at the history channel stuff (includung the pathetic roswell cover up). And it's Ganonlord.



Shush! That's my people's ancient artifact (is Egyptian)... =/ Alright, I do believe in Aliens but it's very possible that maybe my ancestors had the ability to create the pyramids. I just hate that people just have to doubt that... I believe in life on other planets mainly because the universe is so huge, how can we be so vain to just think we're the only ones here. It's just like how they used to think there was no life past the eastern civilizations but then they discovered the "New World". If our own planet is that huge to us, the universe is a billion times that.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 04:30 PM

The whole basis for Ancient Astronauts tends to either be because A) We believe our ancestors were uncreative idiots who couldn't build the stuff they did and B) A convenient explanation of the origin of life (never mind where THEY came from) as opposed to life originating on Earth.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 04:33 PM

I don't believe that our origins are from outer space...I just believe that there are other creatures out there that are capable of coming to Earth. As for the creation of the pyramids and etc...I think that they inspired humans to create them...even help them along the process. I believe I read or saw something on TV which said that the evidence proves that the pyramids could not have been built in the time period that it was suppose to happen, not without help.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 06:09 PM

You know, this would make a great sci-fi show. Aliens pretending to be gods. Maybe some kind of device that allows travel to other planets as well.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 06:16 PM

You know, this would make a great sci-fi show. Aliens pretending to be gods. Maybe some kind of device that allows travel to other planets as well.



lmao~! Vet...they make a show like that xD

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 06:49 PM

Bless you, Emi. I was being sarcastic and a touch condescending. :P

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 06:54 PM

Bless you, Emi. I was being sarcastic and a touch condescending. :P



oh! I am such a geek xD

*pats Vet's back*

woosh...things just go right over Emi's head sometimes.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 08:08 PM

It might be possible, but I don't think there's any evidence for it. The pyramids, ancient monoliths, the wonders of the ancient world... I think they were all built by humans. Humans are pretty amazing, really.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 01:54 AM

I believe in life on other worlds - given the size of the universe it just seems a statistical inevitability - but I doubt they have the ability to visit Earth. Even if their technology far surpasses ours, they're probably too far out. :P

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 02:18 PM

I don't believe that our origins are from outer space...I just believe that there are other creatures out there that are capable of coming to Earth. As for the creation of the pyramids and etc...I think that they inspired humans to create them...even help them along the process. I believe I read or saw something on TV which said that the evidence proves that the pyramids could not have been built in the time period that it was suppose to happen, not without help.

It was that Ancient Astronauts program on history channel. It even proves that we can't build the pyramids, even with today's technology. Let alone 5000 years ago. And there is a tribe in Africa who claims that their "gods" came from the Sirius Star system. Interesting, don't you think?

I believe in life on other worlds - given the size of the universe it just seems a statistical inevitability - but I doubt they have the ability to visit Earth. Even if their technology far surpasses ours, they're probably too far out.

If they can exceed us, chances are that if they are near our galaxy, they've been here.

Shush! That's my people's ancient artifact (is Egyptian)... =/ Alright, I do believe in Aliens but it's very possible that maybe my ancestors had the ability to create the pyramids. I just hate that people just have to doubt that... I believe in life on other planets mainly because the universe is so huge, how can we be so vain to just think we're the only ones here. It's just like how they used to think there was no life past the eastern civilizations but then they discovered the "New World". If our own planet is that huge to us, the universe is a billion times that.


If the GREAT pyramids couldn't be built with TODAY'S tech, how on Earth could they be built 5000 years ago? And aren't thr walls of those particular pyramids completely blank?

It might be possible, but I don't think there's any evidence for it. The pyramids, ancient monoliths, the wonders of the ancient world... I think they were all built by humans. Humans are pretty amazing, really.

There is a bit of evidence if you look closely at ancient myths and artwork. Chances are that if Earth was visited by aliens in the past, they will come back (all of the ancient gods promise to return in the distant future). I hope I will live to see that day.

Edited by ganonlord6000, 24 December 2009 - 02:18 PM.


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Posted 24 December 2009 - 03:56 PM

If the GREAT pyramids couldn't be built with TODAY'S tech, how on Earth could they be built 5000 years ago?

There's not enough slaves in the world right now. Those that we do have are too busy making shoes.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 08:14 PM


If the GREAT pyramids couldn't be built with TODAY'S tech, how on Earth could they be built 5000 years ago?

There's not enough slaves in the world right now. Those that we do have are too busy making shoes.


Actually, in the amount of time it took to build that thing (22 years), and the amount of blocks in it, one block would have to be laid every 9 seconds.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 08:48 PM

Actually, in the amount of time it took to build that thing (22 years), and the amount of blocks in it, one block would have to be laid every 9 seconds.


Okay, so that's one for every second in 22 years divided by 9?

22(years) x 365.25 (days/year) x 24 (hours/day) x 3600 (seconds/hour) = 694 267 200 seconds

694 267 200s / 9 (seconds/block) = 77 140 800 blocks

But Wikipedia states that there are only 2.3 million limestone blocks in the Great Pyramid of Giza. Which is 33.539 times more time/block than you quoted!

Which means they had a total of 301.855 seconds to lay every fifty tonne block in if they worked 24 hours a day for 22 years straight. That's nothing! I could do it myself if I wanted to. =P


I agree with Showsni though, humans really are amazing things. This is why space travel absolutely fascinates me. That we are actually leaving out planet and, for the first time in our history, traveling to other worlds. Don't get me wrong, I believe there are alien lifeforms out there. I just don't think they've been here. We're pretty remote, you know.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 09:08 PM

Observational data on Earth probably resides in some distant alien archive. It's highly doubtful that they influenced evolution, and it's extremely doubtful that any of them made themselves known during the time of homo sapiens. The Ancient Astronaut theories and programs are out to prove something they're already certain is true, so they ignore convenient little common sense details in favor of drama.

Yes, the Dogon tribe in Africa claims that their gods arrived from Sirius. Of course, Sirius is the brightest star in the night sky, and for that reason it has played a major role in most early cultures. The gods and stars have always been closely tied - not because anyone knew that it was possible to travel to different systems, but because they were shiny things that 'flew' across the sky at night. There's also the logical claim that the Dogon's exposure to western culture was the start of that 'origin theory' and their so claimed advanced knowledge, rather than it being a genuine belief prior to western contact.

If you examine Sirius itself, it's not a likely candidate for any kind of life. Sirius is a binary system, and one of those stars is a white dwarf. In order to create a white dwarf, a red giant must reach the end of its life and shed its outer layers, creating a planetary nebula. This means that any life that existed in Sirius was likely eradicated before the Dogon - and humanity as a whole - came into existence. You could argue that the "Sirius Civilization" was interstellar 120 million years ago, and continues to exist in other systems, but this is illogical. Such an advanced civilization would have inevitably made contact with Earth due to their proximity. Sirius is only 8-something lightyears away. An eternity to us; a walk next door for aliens that have been interstellar for 120 million years.


The "Pyramid" theory has been around for ages, and it's nonsense. It's easy to trace the evolution of pyramid design around the world, including the failed attempts. For your one "The Pyramids Couldn't Be Built" show, there are about thirty "How the Pyramids Were Built In Meticulous Detail" shows. On the same network, no less. Humans like to build big things. Egyptian pyramids, Mayan pyramids, ziggurats, fortresses, castles, skyscrapers. Building big things is our hobby.

Most claims in the ancient astronaut theories can be easily explained away with common sense and genuine history. Humanity's not been around that long, and it's still easy to see where one thing led to another. Egyptians only seem crazily advanced because the media hypes it up that way. Egyptians were like America today - the superpower, but with plenty of peers in the same technological neighborhood. The Sumerian civilization was next door and a little older, and they were quite advanced as well. They were just unknown for the longest time due to the loss of records. Egyptians wrote on stone tablets, Sumerians wrote on clay ones... the latter doesn't have the same staying power, unfortunately.

And before anyone brings up "The Twelfth Planet" in regards to Sumer, Sitchin doesn't properly translate their language. Most Sumerologists are both offended and entertained by his 'translations' - which are basically whatever he wants them to be.



Mythology is fascinating. But its roots are very grounded here on Earth, and it's quite easy to see its evolution.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 09:09 PM


Actually, in the amount of time it took to build that thing (22 years), and the amount of blocks in it, one block would have to be laid every 9 seconds.


Okay, so that's one for every second in 22 years divided by 9?

22(years) x 365.25 (days/year) x 24 (hours/day) x 3600 (seconds/hour) = 694 267 200 seconds

694 267 200s / 9 (seconds/block) = 77 140 800 blocks

But Wikipedia states that there are only 2.3 million limestone blocks in the Great Pyramid of Giza. Which is 33.539 times more time/block than you quoted!

Which means they had a total of 301.855 seconds to lay every fifty tonne block in if they worked 24 hours a day for 22 years straight. That's nothing! I could do it myself if I wanted to. =P


I agree with Showsni though, humans really are amazing things. This is why space travel absolutely fascinates me. That we are actually leaving out planet and, for the first time in our history, traveling to other worlds. Don't get me wrong, I believe there are alien lifeforms out there. I just don't think they've been here. We're pretty remote, you know.

History Channel must have done their math wrong. And how do WE know this planet is remote? for all we know, this could be an alien hotspot. Or at least 5000 years ago.

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 12:19 PM

Observational data on Earth probably resides in some distant alien archive. It's highly doubtful that they influenced evolution, and it's extremely doubtful that any of them made themselves known during the time of homo sapiens. The Ancient Astronaut theories and programs are out to prove something they're already certain is true, so they ignore convenient little common sense details in favor of drama.

Yes, the Dogon tribe in Africa claims that their gods arrived from Sirius. Of course, Sirius is the brightest star in the night sky, and for that reason it has played a major role in most early cultures. The gods and stars have always been closely tied - not because anyone knew that it was possible to travel to different systems, but because they were shiny things that 'flew' across the sky at night. There's also the logical claim that the Dogon's exposure to western culture was the start of that 'origin theory' and their so claimed advanced knowledge, rather than it being a genuine belief prior to western contact.

If you examine Sirius itself, it's not a likely candidate for any kind of life. Sirius is a binary system, and one of those stars is a white dwarf. In order to create a white dwarf, a red giant must reach the end of its life and shed its outer layers, creating a planetary nebula. This means that any life that existed in Sirius was likely eradicated before the Dogon - and humanity as a whole - came into existence. You could argue that the "Sirius Civilization" was interstellar 120 million years ago, and continues to exist in other systems, but this is illogical. Such an advanced civilization would have inevitably made contact with Earth due to their proximity. Sirius is only 8-something lightyears away. An eternity to us; a walk next door for aliens that have been interstellar for 120 million years.


The "Pyramid" theory has been around for ages, and it's nonsense. It's easy to trace the evolution of pyramid design around the world, including the failed attempts. For your one "The Pyramids Couldn't Be Built" show, there are about thirty "How the Pyramids Were Built In Meticulous Detail" shows. On the same network, no less. Humans like to build big things. Egyptian pyramids, Mayan pyramids, ziggurats, fortresses, castles, skyscrapers. Building big things is our hobby.

Most claims in the ancient astronaut theories can be easily explained away with common sense and genuine history. Humanity's not been around that long, and it's still easy to see where one thing led to another. Egyptians only seem crazily advanced because the media hypes it up that way. Egyptians were like America today - the superpower, but with plenty of peers in the same technological neighborhood. The Sumerian civilization was next door and a little older, and they were quite advanced as well. They were just unknown for the longest time due to the loss of records. Egyptians wrote on stone tablets, Sumerians wrote on clay ones... the latter doesn't have the same staying power, unfortunately.

And before anyone brings up "The Twelfth Planet" in regards to Sumer, Sitchin doesn't properly translate their language. Most Sumerologists are both offended and entertained by his 'translations' - which are basically whatever he wants them to be.



Mythology is fascinating. But its roots are very grounded here on Earth, and it's quite easy to see its evolution.


Myths were probably made up by early humans, but some things in them are not. Many have been interpreted with a modern eye. Like Jason and the Golden fleece. The monster Talos was obviously a robot. We wouldn't even think about those for a few thousand years yet.

There is also the pyramid of the sun and moon (I don't know how to spell the name of the place they are at). Those are in the exact same location as our sun and moon. The other pyramids in that city match up with all 9 main planets/dwarf planets. And several ancient carvings show beings in what look like astronauts' helmets and flying devices. And in a Mayan carving (by far the strangest tribe ever), there is a person in what looks like a spaceship.

The pyramids will always be strange. There are two stories regarding the creation of the Great Pyramid (can anyone identify the older story?). One says that it was built by the pharoh Keeops. But sources say he was a tyrant. A tyrant like him would have his name all over the pyramid, but it isn't. There are NO inscriptions in that particular pyramid whatsoever. The walls are blank.

Another story is about a man named Zalrit. It is said that the gods desended from the heavens (recently identified as Space) and taught him how to write. So he wrote several books. Then the gods told him about the great flood which would destroy mankind. Zalrit wanted to make sure his books would survive the flood, so with some assistance of the gods, he built the pyramid.

Regarding the internal layout of the great pyramid, the second story seems more likely. But there is evidence that a few aliens have recently visited Earth. They have left bits of evidence behind. They were probably meant to remain in hiding until we advance enough.

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Posted 25 December 2009 - 07:33 PM

The monster Talos was obviously a robot. We wouldn't even think about those for a few thousand years yet.


You're saying humans thought about the idea of robots thousands of years before humans first thought about the idea of robots? There seems to be a slight logical flaw there. If humans can imagine robots, then humans can imagine robots. That's a tautology.

There is also the pyramid of the sun and moon (I don't know how to spell the name of the place they are at). Those are in the exact same location as our sun and moon. The other pyramids in that city match up with all 9 main planets/dwarf planets. And several ancient carvings show beings in what look like astronauts' helmets and flying devices. And in a Mayan carving (by far the strangest tribe ever), there is a person in what looks like a spaceship.


And what exactly does a spaceship look like? I'm sure you could selectively look at any collection of cave paintings, carvings or children's drawings and find pictures of spaceships, dinosaurs and unicorns.

Do you have any more information about this ancient orrery? I shouldn't think an accurate representation of the first six planets would be very hard, but I'm more sceptical about Pluto being included...

The pyramids will always be strange. There are two stories regarding the creation of the Great Pyramid (can anyone identify the older story?). One says that it was built by the pharoh Keeops. But sources say he was a tyrant. A tyrant like him would have his name all over the pyramid, but it isn't. There are NO inscriptions in that particular pyramid whatsoever. The walls are blank.

Another story is about a man named Zalrit. It is said that the gods desended from the heavens (recently identified as Space) and taught him how to write. So he wrote several books. Then the gods told him about the great flood which would destroy mankind. Zalrit wanted to make sure his books would survive the flood, so with some assistance of the gods, he built the pyramid.

Regarding the internal layout of the great pyramid, the second story seems more likely. But there is evidence that a few aliens have recently visited Earth. They have left bits of evidence behind. They were probably meant to remain in hiding until we advance enough.


Um... I think the Khufu explanation is a little more likely. Yeah.


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Posted 28 December 2009 - 11:47 AM

Those myths and legends and stories and such could have been the result of an over active imagination, Bill Hicks had a theory about drugs helping evolved humans so even if we werent visited, those ideas of aliens and all that could have been made in the mind. It starts to make more sence when you add in the factor that Egyptians smoked regularly as tradition. Never underestimate the power of the human mind, all those structures could easily been made by humans. Also, a little off topic but I thought it was cool, one of the side effects of Marijuana on cats is vocalization O_O .

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 11:57 AM

The monster Talos was obviously a robot. We wouldn't even think about those for a few thousand years yet.


You're saying humans thought about the idea of robots thousands of years before humans first thought about the idea of robots? There seems to be a slight logical flaw there. If humans can imagine robots, then humans can imagine robots. That's a tautology.

There is also the pyramid of the sun and moon (I don't know how to spell the name of the place they are at). Those are in the exact same location as our sun and moon. The other pyramids in that city match up with all 9 main planets/dwarf planets. And several ancient carvings show beings in what look like astronauts' helmets and flying devices. And in a Mayan carving (by far the strangest tribe ever), there is a person in what looks like a spaceship.


And what exactly does a spaceship look like? I'm sure you could selectively look at any collection of cave paintings, carvings or children's drawings and find pictures of spaceships, dinosaurs and unicorns.

Do you have any more information about this ancient orrery? I shouldn't think an accurate representation of the first six planets would be very hard, but I'm more sceptical about Pluto being included...

The pyramids will always be strange. There are two stories regarding the creation of the Great Pyramid (can anyone identify the older story?). One says that it was built by the pharoh Keeops. But sources say he was a tyrant. A tyrant like him would have his name all over the pyramid, but it isn't. There are NO inscriptions in that particular pyramid whatsoever. The walls are blank.

Another story is about a man named Zalrit. It is said that the gods desended from the heavens (recently identified as Space) and taught him how to write. So he wrote several books. Then the gods told him about the great flood which would destroy mankind. Zalrit wanted to make sure his books would survive the flood, so with some assistance of the gods, he built the pyramid.

Regarding the internal layout of the great pyramid, the second story seems more likely. But there is evidence that a few aliens have recently visited Earth. They have left bits of evidence behind. They were probably meant to remain in hiding until we advance enough.


Um... I think the Khufu explanation is a little more likely. Yeah.


Actually, it is said that Keeops built the pyramid. Not Khufu. And the greeks thought that talos was a monster. They had no idea that he was a robot. With a modern eye, these myths are easily deciphered. And the pyramids I mentioned include a replica of all 9 planets in our solar system. Some of those couldn't have been discovered without a telescope. And all ships look similar. I forgot to mention the Nazca lines. Those shapes can only be seen from above. There is no way that anyone there could make creatures in the ground like that without some flying device. I guess the truth about this matter will be discovered during the apocolipes(sorry about the spelling). According to one of my english teachers (this one's a mahor mythology geek), that will be the time god returns to fight evil one final time. Providing the Mayans are correct, we don't have long to wait.

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 05:55 PM

Khufu's his Egyptian name; Cheops is what the Greeks called him.

As for the Nazca lines, they're certainly impressive, but I wouldn't say they're impossible to make without an overhead view. You make a detailed plan and pace out on the ground carefully and you can be reasonably sure what the result will look like form above even without seeing it for yourself. England, too, has giant figures of men and horses designed to be seen from above all over it; the Cerne Abbas giant, the Uffington White Horse... But several were made relatively recently, without the aid of flying devices.


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Posted 29 December 2009 - 11:38 AM

Khufu's his Egyptian name; Cheops is what the Greeks called him.

As for the Nazca lines, they're certainly impressive, but I wouldn't say they're impossible to make without an overhead view. You make a detailed plan and pace out on the ground carefully and you can be reasonably sure what the result will look like form above even without seeing it for yourself. England, too, has giant figures of men and horses designed to be seen from above all over it; the Cerne Abbas giant, the Uffington White Horse... But several were made relatively recently, without the aid of flying devices.


Thanks for clearing me up on the name. Egypt does have some strange passageways that can't have been built without modern lighting. Like the Great Pyramid. There is very little to no oxygen which makes it impossible to sustain a flame. How can something be built without any help under those conditions? There are the actual Nazca lines (not the figures) that actually look like runways. They are about as long as them as well. And when people first saw the nazca lines before people began flying over those mountains, people thought they were just irrigation ditches. The shapes could only be made out from above. And those made recently still had some technical assistance. The ancients did not.

There is no question about it that aliens are CURERNTLY visiting Earth, in my eye. They leave traces of evidence all over the planet in various places (History Channel had something on this).

Edited by ganonlord6000, 29 December 2009 - 11:41 AM.


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Posted 29 December 2009 - 11:41 AM


Khufu's his Egyptian name; Cheops is what the Greeks called him.

As for the Nazca lines, they're certainly impressive, but I wouldn't say they're impossible to make without an overhead view. You make a detailed plan and pace out on the ground carefully and you can be reasonably sure what the result will look like form above even without seeing it for yourself. England, too, has giant figures of men and horses designed to be seen from above all over it; the Cerne Abbas giant, the Uffington White Horse... But several were made relatively recently, without the aid of flying devices.


Thanks for clearing me up on the name. Egypt does have some strange passageways that can't have been built without modern lighting. Like the Great Pyramid. There is very little to no oxygen which makes it impossible to sustain a flame. How can something be built without any help under those conditions? There are the actual Nazca lines (not the figures) that actually look like runways. They are about as long as them as well.

There is no question about it that aliens are CURERNTLY visiting Earth, in my eye. They leave traces of evidence all over the planet in various places (History Channel had something on this).



And how do you know this? Have you even been in a Pyramid? Have you even been near one? Or are you just taking into account things you've watched from others' point of view in shows and tv? I've been there, and was even in one, climbed on one, etc. I've been there and I'm sorry, I like to give credit where credit is due, the humans that slaved on those creations and the fact that Egypt was one of the first civilizations.

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 12:12 PM



Khufu's his Egyptian name; Cheops is what the Greeks called him.

As for the Nazca lines, they're certainly impressive, but I wouldn't say they're impossible to make without an overhead view. You make a detailed plan and pace out on the ground carefully and you can be reasonably sure what the result will look like form above even without seeing it for yourself. England, too, has giant figures of men and horses designed to be seen from above all over it; the Cerne Abbas giant, the Uffington White Horse... But several were made relatively recently, without the aid of flying devices.


Thanks for clearing me up on the name. Egypt does have some strange passageways that can't have been built without modern lighting. Like the Great Pyramid. There is very little to no oxygen which makes it impossible to sustain a flame. How can something be built without any help under those conditions? There are the actual Nazca lines (not the figures) that actually look like runways. They are about as long as them as well.

There is no question about it that aliens are CURERNTLY visiting Earth, in my eye. They leave traces of evidence all over the planet in various places (History Channel had something on this).



And how do you know this? Have you even been in a Pyramid? Have you even been near one? Or are you just taking into account things you've watched from others' point of view in shows and tv? I've been there, and was even in one, climbed on one, etc. I've been there and I'm sorry, I like to give credit where credit is due, the humans that slaved on those creations and the fact that Egypt was one of the first civilizations.


some ancient structures are interesting. Like the pyramids in Mexico I mentioned earlier that are a model of our solar system. Including all 9 (now 8) of the main planets. That is strange considering the outer planets wouldn't be discovered (or at leat Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto) for another 1 or 2000 years.

And I never said that early humans didn't build the Egyption Pyramids. I'm just saying they could have gotten help. I still believe that humans built the smaller pyramids without help, but the Great Pyramids, which were built hundreds of years before the others, are a different story. The one who built the Great pyramid (Khufu/Cheeops) was said to have been a tyrant. If he was, why isn't his name, or any inscription for that matter, all over it? Same thing with the other two great pyramids. I still believe that the early humans built it themselves, but had assistance from a more advanced race (if our fighters in WW II were viewed as gods by the people in the south pacific, how would someone from ancient times view an alien?).

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 08:12 PM

Wondering why Khufu's name wasn't all over the great pyramids, you could also wonder why there's no alien inscription on them as well.

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 11:40 PM

. I still believe that humans built the smaller pyramids without help, but the Great Pyramids, which were built hundreds of years before the others, are a different story.


Incorrect. The Great Pyramids came after centuries of mastaba and pyramid building.

Internal pyramid layout is complex to ward off robbers, not because it's alien in origin. The passageways were designed for a purpose, and there were escape routes used by workers which were later closed off and/or destroyed. I suggest watching the multitude of "How the Pyramids Were Built" shows.


On buildings aligning with the stars/being heavily astronomy based: It's not as impossible as you think. Most cultures around the world - from the Egyptians to the Celts to the Mayans to the Babylonians - knew how to chart and calculate the position of the stars and future star movement. Cultures built certain structures based on the stars or planets, either for ceremonial or functional purposes (such as marking the solstice). Civilizations like Egypt, Babylon, and China developed advanced mathematics for their time - not from aliens, but from centuries of development that one can trace.


On Talos: A man made of bronze is not that radical an idea. Myths also state that humans were made of clay. This is obviously not true. As Showsni said, if humans can imagine 'robots' in the modern age despite having no prior history of robots, then a Greek can easily imagine a man made out of bronze.



Your arguments would be somewhat more effective if they didn't seem based on lack of historical knowledge. Most of things you're claiming to be mysteries were de-mystified a while ago. :P

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 01:34 PM

. I still believe that humans built the smaller pyramids without help, but the Great Pyramids, which were built hundreds of years before the others, are a different story.


Incorrect. The Great Pyramids came after centuries of mastaba and pyramid building.

Internal pyramid layout is complex to ward off robbers, not because it's alien in origin. The passageways were designed for a purpose, and there were escape routes used by workers which were later closed off and/or destroyed. I suggest watching the multitude of "How the Pyramids Were Built" shows.


On buildings aligning with the stars/being heavily astronomy based: It's not as impossible as you think. Most cultures around the world - from the Egyptians to the Celts to the Mayans to the Babylonians - knew how to chart and calculate the position of the stars and future star movement. Cultures built certain structures based on the stars or planets, either for ceremonial or functional purposes (such as marking the solstice). Civilizations like Egypt, Babylon, and China developed advanced mathematics for their time - not from aliens, but from centuries of development that one can trace.


On Talos: A man made of bronze is not that radical an idea. Myths also state that humans were made of clay. This is obviously not true. As Showsni said, if humans can imagine 'robots' in the modern age despite having no prior history of robots, then a Greek can easily imagine a man made out of bronze.



Your arguments would be somewhat more effective if they didn't seem based on lack of historical knowledge. Most of things you're claiming to be mysteries were de-mystified a while ago. Posted Image


Wasn't khufu pharoh about 4500 years ago? That was an early era. I know the ones the other two great pyramids were built for were alive at around the same time. But it is hard to ignore that several civilizations throughout the world have carvings of creatures in an astronauts' helmet and suit. As well as carvings that look like modern air/spacecraft. I think I'd be better off with a thread about recent ufo siteings (like the last few hundred years). At least those aliens leave evidence behind that we can see ourselves that isn't too old.

Edit: The first known Egyption pyramid was constructed between 2630 BC and 2611 BC. The Great Pyramid was constructed less than a century later in 2560 BC. Still pretty early.

Edited by ganonlord6000, 30 December 2009 - 02:01 PM.





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