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#1 Person

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 05:16 PM

Okay, in PH Jolene mentions that it had been over 100 years since they had met, and he appears in ST, but he doesn't appear to have aged a day, unlike Niko. What does everybody think of this?

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 06:18 PM

Crazy Thought: Linebeck was Bellum all along. The whole thing was a Xanatos Gambit to free himself and to 'fake' his own death to get Link and Oshus off his back.

But I don't remember Jolene saying that. And I didn't know he was in ST either.

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 07:08 PM

And obviously Jolene's quote is supposed to be taken literally ¬¬

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 07:16 PM

I'm not an expert on the Japanese language and how it translates, but perhaps the original Japanese version had something like "the last time we met was AGES ago." Sometimes...things get translated poorly, especially when the characters in question are so trivial. (Jolene? Jolene WHO?)

Remember, TWW had this same translation error: what could mean "hundreds" in one scenario could mean "one hundred" in another, or simply "a very long time" in yet another situation. Don't take it literally is the point I'm driving at.

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 07:35 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Linebeck appeared in ST for the same reason that Malon & Talon appeared in FSA and TMC. Character recycling.

Edited by Raien, 02 December 2009 - 07:35 PM.


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Posted 02 December 2009 - 09:35 PM

If Jolene's quote was literal, then wouldn't she also be the same age? Is she in Spirit Tracks?

Fiend! it's been 100 years since our paths last crossed... oh, what!? you aren't Linebeck!


(Or something like that, accordning to a website I found.)


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Posted 02 December 2009 - 09:36 PM

That wouldn't be Linebeck, that would be Linebeck the Third. :3

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 10:11 PM

http://www.gametrail...da-spirit/59606

Watch until the end. Linebeck is in it, and appears to recognize Link.

Edited by Person, 02 December 2009 - 10:12 PM.


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Posted 02 December 2009 - 10:59 PM

Wait. You made a topic about Linebeck being immortal when there's a far more important character in that video... Tingle!

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 11:19 PM

Linebeck really had potential to be the best Zelda character since Tingle. Then they went and ruined it by having him just sit around for 3/4 of the game.

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 11:50 PM

http://www.gametrail...da-spirit/59606

Watch until the end. Linebeck is in it, and appears to recognize Link.


Interesting. If he's not being used like Malon and Talon were in FSA and TMC, Linebeck may very well have an unnatural life span. However, this might turn out to be a simple case of trolling. "Really Link, I still can't get over the fact that we coincidentally look just like our great grandfathers and have their names."

That cardboard cutout of Tingle in the background is a nice little cameo, and if I'm not mistaken, that's a model of Tetra's ship from TWW and PH on the counter.

Edited by Average Gamer, 02 December 2009 - 11:55 PM.


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Posted 02 December 2009 - 11:51 PM

Wait. You made a topic about Linebeck being immortal when there's a far more important character in that video... Tingle!

Tingle just looks like a background cameo, Linebeck makes an actual appearance.

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Posted 03 December 2009 - 04:20 AM

Interesting piece of dialogue from Jolene. Now if only we can find a MAN that says the same thing so we can actually take this quote seriously. [/sarcasm]

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Posted 03 December 2009 - 05:02 PM

I've seen him called Linebeck III a couple times now...is there any source for that, or are people just speculating?

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Posted 03 December 2009 - 05:08 PM

I've seen him called Linebeck III a couple times now...is there any source for that, or are people just speculating?


Gametrailers has a video review up that shows the line in question.

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Posted 03 December 2009 - 05:08 PM

Okay, in PH Jolene mentions that it had been over 100 years since they had met, and he appears in ST, but he doesn't appear to have aged a day, unlike Niko. What does everybody think of this?

Linebeck is in ST? I know Niko is, but Linebeck? I don't think he's immortal, he can just live a long time. People in Zelda have a tendency (not including "immortals" like Ganon) to live a lot longer than us Earthlings.

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Posted 03 December 2009 - 05:09 PM

Linebeck is in ST? I know Niko is, but Linebeck? I don't think he's immortal, he can just live a long time. People in Zelda have a tendency (not including "immortals" like Ganon) to live a lot longer than us Earthlings.


It's not Linebeck, it's a descendant of Linebeck.

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Posted 03 December 2009 - 05:15 PM

Linebeck is in ST? I know Niko is, but Linebeck? I don't think he's immortal, he can just live a long time. People in Zelda have a tendency (not including "immortals" like Ganon) to live a lot longer than us Earthlings.


It's not Linebeck, it's a descendant of Linebeck.

Where did it say that he's a desendent of Linebeck? Why can't it be linebeck? Niko is in this game. Then again, he was a lot younger in that linebeck. He's about the same age as TWW/PH's Link. He could be in ST as well.

Edit: I just saw the linebeck III part. I still don't think that this Link is related to TWW Link though. The different Links very rarely are desendents of each other.

Edited by ganonlord6000, 03 December 2009 - 05:17 PM.


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Posted 03 December 2009 - 05:53 PM

Edit: I just saw the linebeck III part. I still don't think that this Link is related to TWW Link though. The different Links very rarely are desendents of each other.


Eh? I don't remember seeing anything to determine that the Links come from different heritages, quite the reverse.

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Posted 04 December 2009 - 08:49 AM

Edit: I just saw the linebeck III part. I still don't think that this Link is related to TWW Link though. The different Links very rarely are desendents of each other.


Eh? I don't remember seeing anything to determine that the Links come from different heritages, quite the reverse.


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Niko would probably know if Link was related to TWW Link, yet he finds it strange that Link reminds him so much of TWW Link...

http://img20.imagesh.../nikofriend.png


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Posted 04 December 2009 - 09:48 AM

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Niko would probably know if Link was related to TWW Link, yet he finds it strange that Link reminds him so much of TWW Link...

http://img20.imagesh.../nikofriend.png


That's perfectly fine in this case, although it doesn't say much about the other examples that Ganonlord was apparently referencing.

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Posted 04 December 2009 - 05:48 PM

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Niko would probably know if Link was related to TWW Link, yet he finds it strange that Link reminds him so much of TWW Link...

http://img20.imagesh.../nikofriend.png


That's perfectly fine in this case, although it doesn't say much about the other examples that Ganonlord was apparently referencing.

I was refering only to the AT. on that timeline, the Links are most definatly NOT desendents of each other. On the CT, TP Link might be a desendent of OOT Link FSA Link, I don't know. ALTTP Link, maybe a desendent of one of the Links.
Oh. I appreciate you finding that image Nerushi, but someone like me could easily wait two or three more days for that.

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Posted 05 December 2009 - 02:00 AM

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Niko would probably know if Link was related to TWW Link, yet he finds it strange that Link reminds him so much of TWW Link...

http://img20.imagesh.../nikofriend.png


That's perfectly fine in this case, although it doesn't say much about the other examples that Ganonlord was apparently referencing.

I was refering only to the AT. on that timeline, the Links are most definatly NOT desendents of each other. On the CT, TP Link might be a desendent of OOT Link FSA Link, I don't know. ALTTP Link, maybe a desendent of one of the Links.
Oh. I appreciate you finding that image Nerushi, but someone like me could easily wait two or three more days for that.

Well, we only know that TWW Link isn't descended from OoT Link. ST Link could be a descendant of TWW Link, however.




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