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#1 davogones

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Posted 16 September 2004 - 11:50 AM

I'm back in the US now. It's funny, I wrote a lot of code the past few weeks and didn't bother to back it up... I was going to do that when I got back, but the hard drives decided to die the very day I left Rome.

Anyway, here is what is lost, and what is backed up.

Backed up:
- Almost the entire site, as of 2 months ago
- Image gallery, as of March
- Databases: I have a two-week old backup of one database which has the mailbag, updates, links, encyclopedia, and bestiary. I have a backup of the redesigned encyclopedia database, which I've been working on in secret, and most of the code that goes along with it.

Not backed up:
- Fan art gallery (the database and images, at any rate)
- Fan fic section (as far as I know)
- Zelda news is only backed up from November 2003, but I expect that Google has the news posts cached. I plan to redesign this anyway, using a database instead of Newspro.

What I plan to do:
I'm not going to simply reupload everything and try to get things running as quickly as possible. Even if I wanted to, I'm at home and I have dialup. I'm not upload 800MB of stuff over dialup. Besides, Khuffie might be able to restore some data off of the original hard drives.

What I DO plan to do is take this opportunity to improve some things. I plan to have a single login system for everything (or try to, anyway). I'm going to redesign the encyclopedia (which is already almost complete, actually) and have a members area (a plan which is also fairly advanced, though put back a few days thanks to lost code). I'll also merge the fan art gallery and image gallery into one.

How long will this take? Oh, I'd say a month or so. In the meantime, I'll see if I can reupload small portions of the site at a time. Don't expect everything to go up at once.

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Posted 16 September 2004 - 11:54 AM

Well... at least there's a plan of action. And there were hardly any real updates to the site in the past few months anyway, so a 2 month old backup isn't bad at all. Except now l-o-s has to redo the links page. :XD:

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Posted 16 September 2004 - 11:55 AM

For the net ignorant: How different will it be from the site we all know and love?

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Posted 16 September 2004 - 11:59 AM

Oh, that database had the links table in it too. So that's good as of two weeks ago.

Joey, it will be exactly the same except you can log in and do cool stuff, like write encyclopedia entries and post your theories.

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Posted 16 September 2004 - 12:01 PM

Kickass! You are the MAN!

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Posted 16 September 2004 - 06:03 PM

So wait, the whole site is to be down for a month? *sigh*...darn, I had some pics i wanted to poast... :(

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Posted 16 September 2004 - 06:11 PM

An area for us high-ups to login? Nice! I was just a bit computer illiterate myself to use those.. things.. and.. yeah. Though I did.. but then.. yeah. anyway.. this would be simpler.

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Posted 16 September 2004 - 06:21 PM

That sounds very nice ^.^ .

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Posted 16 September 2004 - 06:38 PM

*fwap*

Silly Kairu, you're already staff member! :P

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Posted 17 September 2004 - 07:20 AM

I'd like the storyline FAQS to be finished. To me they were more helpful than the storyline summaries anyway. Heck, I'd be happy to do it if you want. I know the answers to all the questions. ^.^

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Posted 17 September 2004 - 08:49 AM

so the fanart gallery is utterly gone unless one of the hard disks is somewhat salvagable. from my knowledge of hard disk architechture, the high-activety fanart gallery is the least likely to remain intact, which means our 2600+ pics are gone unless we ourselves have backups.



actually, the fanart gallery quite likely contributed greatly to the crashing of the disks- we upload and download vastly more than any other section, via greater submission frequency and viewing frequency.

it might stand to reason then to isolate the fanart gallery onto a different serverbox, in case we cause another crash. let me see... if i'm guessing right, (i doubt it, but wtf) it might cost... $700 to rig up a seperate 'box on the outset, and then an additional $200 when we consume the space on the drive. so... would it be possible to set up a system where high-submission artists can donate money, to help buy space that they otherwise wouldn't have? ie, drop the space newbies get, by say half, but add space to a account partition depending on the donation. it'd kinda suck, but crashing everything (again) would be quite shameful.

on a side note, i'm not sure combining the fanart gallery and image gallery would be a good idea davogones... they're very different in purpose and design, on a fundamental level.

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Posted 17 September 2004 - 09:36 AM

The server ought to be able to handle quite a lot. I'm not sure the fan art gallery ought to be blamed. Anyone who submits work to a web site ought to have their own backup of their work. That's just common sense. No web site is infallible.

The fan art and image galleries are different in purpose, yes, but exactly the same in design. They both use Coppermine. Coppermine has a built in user gallery, which the fan art gallery makes use of exclusively. The image gallery makes use of all features other than the user gallery. So go figure. The only reason we didn't combine them in the first place was because I had stupid technical reasons concerning paths to images, references to which I didn't want to change.

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Posted 17 September 2004 - 12:19 PM

i know i'm a staff member.. i meant.. a staff members area.. to log into.. would be superior to this.. umm.. thing we had.. before. anyway, i wasnt able to use the fanart gallery anyway.. glitchy sumbitch.

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Posted 18 September 2004 - 08:50 AM

So all of my pics are gone? I'm not bothered about the pictures, just the comments people have posted. So i don't quite understand, the fanart gallery's completely gone? Oh man, I have nothing to do on the puter anymore, the best fanart gallery in the whole universe has gone. Oh well, I'll have to make do with DeviantArt for now then.... And i've found i always relyed on ZL for good reference pictures, it's way better than any search engine. Hope everything goes alright Davo, I'll be glad when the sites back up, it rox!

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Posted 18 September 2004 - 02:05 PM

I have mastered Hiragana and Katakana, maybe in five years I'll be able to help translating from Japanese to English ^.^.

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Posted 18 September 2004 - 05:42 PM

loz.zeldalegends.net is still up...

for the offhand chance that you forgot you had a site before you merged with Khuffie's Site....

Edit: not sure if that's the URL, came across the Hyrule Geography article while Google searching... the one with the .net affix is there though

#17 davogones

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Posted 18 September 2004 - 10:22 PM

Yes, the fan art gallery is gone, including all the pictures and the comments. Unless Khuffie can restore it from the hard drive somehow, which I doubt.

Google still has many portions of the site... in its CACHE. All the site content that I listed above will go back up... eventually. Khuffie and I are redoing the site backend and it will take a while.

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Posted 18 September 2004 - 10:29 PM

Just a note, you need to repair the loz.zeldalegends.net redirection, a lot of your affiliates use that link and it's dead.

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 11:25 AM

Ah, fair point. Still, they need to update their links. :P

#20 Masamune

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 11:31 AM

Yeah. Except I'm lazy and when you merged you told us we didn't need to. XD

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Posted 19 September 2004 - 08:45 PM

Khuffie must have told you that. Bad Khuffie, bad!

It's fixed now anyway.

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Posted 20 September 2004 - 10:28 AM

The fanfics are....gone? :(

I had some good reviews on my fanfics. Oh well...

I hope everything works out fine in a month or so.

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Posted 20 September 2004 - 03:48 PM

It really sucks that all my fanart is gone....oh well I guess there's nothing I can do about it. It's not so much the art, because that I can put up again...it's all the wonderful reviews.

Please get the site up again soon!!! Life is empty without it...:crying:

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Posted 21 September 2004 - 06:46 AM

Originally posted by davogones@Sep 19 2004, 09:45 PM
Khuffie must have told you that. Bad Khuffie, bad!

It's fixed now anyway.

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Lies of the infidel! I never did such a thing! Never really talked to Masamune till after he got hosted =P

Oh and pinning this topic? Prolly useful. You may smite me if its not. (davogones, not you others =P)

Oh, we should probably take this time to see if there's anything else you'd like to see, in terms of features, content, ideas so on. Not promising anything will be done (well not initially at least), but it'd still be good ;)

And no, we're not doing zelda porn :P

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Posted 21 September 2004 - 11:17 AM

Originally posted by Khuffie@Sep 21 2004, 06:46 AM
and no, we're not doing zelda porn :P


bummer! hehehe

#26 Masamune

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Posted 21 September 2004 - 07:06 PM

Yeah, Davo. I think it was you, not Khuffie who said it. But I have no proof, since I don't have that e-mail anymore.

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Posted 21 September 2004 - 10:42 PM

Well, regardless of what anyone might have said previously... Change the link already! It's been a year for crying out loud!

#28 Masamune

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Posted 21 September 2004 - 11:23 PM

I still remember seeing links to 'komodai.tripod.com' on your site. So nyeh.

#29 davogones

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Posted 22 September 2004 - 11:50 PM

Lies! All lies!

Seriously though, I changed your link right after I hosted your site and created your account with your new domain name! Cmon, return the favor! ;)

#30 Masamune

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Posted 22 September 2004 - 11:51 PM

Well... I could point out some of your affilliates that don't even link back *coughShyguyKingdomcoughcough* in exchange?




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