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[Toast]

I find the prejudice against anyone not graduated from Harvard disturbing.

Did I claim that any presidential candidate without a degree from Harvard was unqualified? I don't have any statistical backings offhand to reinforce my opinions on the quality of education from the two universities, nor do I intend to go digging for such information.

I believe education is a more important factor for running a country than faith, albeit less of a factor than intent. I'm not saying faith is unimportant, but the fact that so many candidates have skimmed over their education in order to bark about the other parts of their campaign makes me perhaps somewhat paranoid.

In short, I'm saddened that candidates have to campaign the zealotry of their faith above the rigors of their education. Both are necessary elements to a campaign, but a degree in political science and international affairs is better suited for running a democratic country vs. a degree in theology. And sorry CID, I don't have the facts to back that up either.

Edited by Toast, 25 January 2008 - 01:04 AM.

[CID Farwin]

Whoops, sorry Toasty; That last statement wasn't aimed at you.

I feel that a learned man(or woman) should definitely take precedence over someone who is ignorant. The statement is directed more towards the fact that Harvard Law School is the "best" up there with Yale and that someone who graduated from some other respected University should be considered just as much as someone who graduated from the Ivy Leagues.

But again, not aimed at you, (if anything I probably mostly agree with you) or probably really anyone in this thread, just a random rant.

[Toast]

No hard feelings CID, I tend to get worked up over politics sometimes; I didn't mean to bite your head off.

[CID Farwin]

Happens to the best of us.

Anyway, back on topic...

[Toan]

Hmm, and now Edwards has dropped out of the race from the Democrats... It's down to Obama and Hillary, now.

*waves Obama flag*

[JRPomazon]

Hmm, and now Edwards has dropped out of the race from the Democrats... It's down to Obama and Hillary, now.

*waves Obama flag*

*joins in the waving*

I really want Hillary to lose. If she becomes president, then Bill is just going to use her status to pass his own bills from behind the curtain. I've had enough Clinton, I want to see someone new.

[masterofwind]

I am leaning towards Obama, but these election really are important to me because they decide who my boss is.

[world_trecker]

Not only that..... I cant stand Clinton... >< She's got this squeeky voice and it's just... UGH she looks hypocritical to. She runs away from the press and doesnt confront them, she fakes cries to gain votes, she hires Black preachers to go againt thier own race *Obama* (Some say he doesn't qualify as a Black man), and even her policies suck. Look back WAY back, and does anyone remember her health care policies... yeah.... tell me about it.

Pluss.... nobody wants a POW to be thier president -Cough- -McCain- -Cough- -Sucks-... you know the way they turn out after their detained.... mentally ill. *Waves Obama Flag*

Edited by world_trecker, 31 January 2008 - 06:20 PM.

[SnowsilverKat]

Well, the political ads have started to trickle onto the airwaves in my state, so I'm beginning to cringe. One thing I absolutely can't stand is when the mudslinging starts. Sometimes candidates spend so much time putting holes in the other candidates that you don't actually find out why they themselves are qualified for election. Just kind of bugs me.

One thing about these primaries is that they dissimilar to the Electoral College. When a candidate 'wins' a state, it isn't an all-or-nothing deal; the delegates still can be distributed between candidates. So it won't be until the DNC and RNC that we'll really know for sure who are the official party candidates...So basically right now it's a shot in the dark still on both sides.

Since I'm an Independent I don't get to vote in the primary in my state anyway. *mumbles about stupid 2 party system*

[Oberon Storm]

Pluss.... nobody wants a POW to be thier president -Cough- -McCain- -Cough- -Sucks-... you know the way they turn out after their detained.... mentally ill. *Waves Obama Flag*

Uh... No.

One thing about these primaries is that they dissimilar to the Electoral College. When a candidate 'wins' a state, it isn't an all-or-nothing deal; the delegates still can be distributed between candidates. So it won't be until the DNC and RNC that we'll really know for sure who are the official party candidates...So basically right now it's a shot in the dark still on both sides.

Since I'm an Independent I don't get to vote in the primary in my state anyway. *mumbles about stupid 2 party system*

Several states are all or nothing. A few states are not all or nothing, but they don't split them up by percentage either. Each congressional district is worth a certain number of delegates in these states. Each district is all or nothing. We'll know each parties canidate a good time before the conventions. And check your state's election laws. I don't think most states require you to be a member of a party to vote in the primaries or even caucus. You can't vote or caucus with both parties though. That's why independents are a huge factor in the primaries and caucuses.

[HylianHero]

Alright, I've officially chosen my two candidates. I'm technically Republican, but that can change depending on if I like their choice or not.

McCain on the Republican side.

Obama on the Democratic.

Let's start with the Democrats, I can explain it easier. I can't stand Hillary. I hate how she's all flip-floppy all the time. She states how against the war in Iraq she is, but yet she voted for it in the beginning. At least Obama voted against it from the beginning. I do really feel like Obama knows the younger generation way better than Hillary. I don't want Bill being the first man either. But really, their platforms are similar, but I really feel like Obama is more genuine, Hillary seems too fake, and how lobbyistic she is (I know that's not a word)

Republicans: So I'm afraid of Mitt Romney. I'm sorry to anyone that's Mormon, but I don't really want one leading our country. He's yet another person I feel is fake. I just feel bad about him, there's nothing terribly wrong. I just don't enjoy old baseball glove Romney. Huckabee and McCain was close for me. Huckabee is too religious for me. I'm a Christian, but I really do agree in separation of church and state. I don't want us to become the Christian country. So, I feel that McCain fits for our country better. He's experienced, and I agree with his platform the most. He is my definite favorite choice.

So, if McCain makes it, I'll vote for him. If Obama makes it and McCain doesn't, I'll vote for him. If anyone else makes it I'm voting Green party/Independent.

[CID Farwin]

So I'm afraid of Mitt Romney. I'm sorry to anyone that's Mormon, but I don't really want one leading our country. He's yet another person I feel is fake. I just feel bad about him, there's nothing terribly wrong. I just don't enjoy old baseball glove Romney.

No offense here, as long as you're going with the 'feel bad about him' and not the 'Mormon.'

I was originally going to vote for him, but then after I thought about it I really don't want that guy running our country. The same goes for the two who ran just to take votes away from him. Then the only one left that I've heard of is Guliani, an from what I hear he did a great job with New York, so I think I'm backing him.

If I was going to vote democrat(very big 'if') I think I would still hate Clinton, and back Obama.

All empty promises aside, can anyone help me with what any candidates have actually done to make them deserve the position?

When it comes down to it I might have to just vote green party.

[Egann]

My 1st post here.

This go-round I can't find anyone to support, so rather than voting for someone I'm voting against someone.

Personally, though, I think that if McCain wins the Republican nomination, he hasn't got a chance to win the general. He barely pulled any votes here in the South because of his amnesty bill -illegal immigration is big down here- and those electorals are critical for any republican, I suspect the democrat (probably Obama now) will win.

[Fyxe]

http://www.thedailys...cans-in-florida

Witness the true horror of Mitt Romney in all it's sickening and vaguely racist hideousness. Also hilariousness.

Edited by Fyxe, 07 February 2008 - 09:54 AM.

[HylianHero]

So I'm afraid of Mitt Romney. I'm sorry to anyone that's Mormon, but I don't really want one leading our country. He's yet another person I feel is fake. I just feel bad about him, there's nothing terribly wrong. I just don't enjoy old baseball glove Romney.

No offense here, as long as you're going with the 'feel bad about him' and not the 'Mormon.'

Of course that's what I'm going with.

New news: Romney dropped out! So I guess I'm going to happy with anyone as long as Clinton doesn't make the Dem nomination.

[Oberon Storm]

He didn't drop out completely. Just suspended his campaign. I have no clue what that means, but it puts pressure on Huckabee to drop out. That effectively places the nomination in McCain's hands.

Ron Paul is an idiot to still be in it. What happened to all that internet support he was supposed to have? Did they all forget he had to actually get the nomination before they could vote for him for president? H e might do well in texas, but if Romney is worried about himself being able to clinch the nomination then Paul doesn't stand a chance.

[wisp]

I'm truly frightened of what will happen to this country if Huckabee is elected. I hope Obama can pull the nomination away from Hillary. Still, Hil would be better than Huckabee... sadly enough.