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#1 martinDTanderson

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 03:02 PM

I found this image today, and was wondering if any of our resident Japanese speakers could take a look and maybe translate some of the important bits of info.


Some of the artwork is interesting. Zelda holding the Wind Waker shield, Link looking a little older without his hat, Stained glass images akin to those from The Wind Waker, A Dark character resembling an Adult Link, and screenshots which seem to show a broken Master Sword, and stone Princess Zelda.


So if you could take a look, it may give us an insight to the story, and see if it really is a sequel to The Wind Waker.

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 03:07 PM

*drools*

That looks purely awesome. And it could definitely fill in the blanks, from the looks of it.

BTW, Zethar made mention of Ganon from the storyboard video, at the Japanese TMC site.

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 03:24 PM

XD I so hope TMC is the sequel to TWW we never got on the GC...

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 03:26 PM

XD I so hope TMC is the sequel to TWW we never got on the GC...

*crossies*


What are you talking about?

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 03:35 PM

Just a pipe dream. Nothing more.

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 06:23 PM

Actually, I'm also positive that this is going to be the sequel to The Wind Waker. It's got the broken Master Sword, TWW Zelda (not the same one from the FS games, but the one from TWW) and many other references to TWW.

Since we know the Four Sword is in this game, and apparently Link is trying to reforge the Master Sword (we know he has to reforge an ancient sword, and we see the broken Master Sword there) my guess is that this game is the sequel to The Wind Waker, and also the FS backstory (with the original wielder of the Four Sword sealing away Vaati).

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 06:47 PM

If thats the case, then it may also explain why the Master Sword changed colour in ALttP, and why that version of the master sword was used in the early logo design...Posted Image

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 06:52 PM

Makes sense... The Blue one was stuck underneath the ocean... perhaps a new one was forged? I dunno. And why is it stuck into the top of treasure chest! Can someone please hurry up and translate this so I can stop being left in the dark. ;_;

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 06:53 PM

this only helps prove my theory about split timelines! Cool!

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 07:04 PM

Well I don't know about the split timeline but if Hero is right, this might give the FS series a legitimate footing in the Zelda series.

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 07:11 PM

Sure it does. I won't post it here, but I have a topic in this forum...

No one's commented though :P

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 07:15 PM

I think that's because we already have too many those topics already. +^^

But whatever floats your boat dude.

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 07:23 PM

How does this support the split timeline theory?

Considering this game has the Four Sword and connects to TWW, I think people have no choice but to include the FS series as part of the Zelda series.

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 07:33 PM

Oh, no I include them already, I'm just thinking that all of the games made while Mr. A's in charge of Zelda are being fused together. This leads me to believe that in order for Mr. A to take over, he had to break away from Mr. M's storyline.
The thing with LttP? it's my belief that the timelines come back together in this game, where the master sword, the cause of the split, comes to rest forever.

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 07:45 PM

Basicly, what Chronicle is saying that all the other games prior to MM take place in the ORIGINAL timeline (Miyamoto's Timeline) while MM, TWW, and everything after that took place in the new timeline established when Zelda sent Link back to his original time (Aonuma's Timeline). Right, Chronicle? I suppose it's some sort of reveresed MTT.

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 07:52 PM

uh.. this helps the single timeline theory... because now, if there are two master swords, then there is no reason why a new timeline should be created because of the Line in LttP. If this is so, then, yes, that master sword may not be used again. then trouble comes up, and a new one is made... or, maybe it's the other way around, since the red sword is in here...

What I'd like to see is a sort of symbiosis of the two swords, red and blue. Kind of like the Four Sword.

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 07:55 PM

Ever think that's it just the old sword made into this new one? The story synopsis, posted on old LA, did say Link needed to reforge an ancient sword in order to defeat Vaati. Obviously, he needs to reforge the Master Sword, quite possibly after it's ordeal with Ganon (at the end of TWW).

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Posted 07 October 2004 - 07:57 PM

^^ Or the introduction of a green and purple one. It's supposed to be broken, remember?

You know, with all these swords, there's no reason that LttP can't even happen before Oot. The series could, in theory, follow the order they were released. Just a thought... *gets lynched by a mob of rabid anti-IJAG theorists*

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Posted 08 October 2004 - 03:12 AM

http://www.planetgam...screens&id=2134

There are a couple of images from the stained glass intro, in ENGLISH!

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Posted 08 October 2004 - 03:37 AM

Guys, the Master Sword had a purple hilt in game in ALttP. It was just the art that showed it with a red one.

http://www.planetgam...screens&id=2134

There are a couple of images from the stained glass intro, in ENGLISH!


Looks like this is just going to make things more confusing. I mean, the text for the stained glass intro doesn't really seem to back up the idea that this game is a sequel to WW.

EDIT: Gamespot has a bunch of new pictures, too.

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WTF? So it's not the Master Sword?

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Posted 08 October 2004 - 05:15 AM

Hum... this may close some lose ends of FS's storyline...

Here's the information I've gathered from those screenshots-

1-The "Picori" Sword, which looks remarkably like the Master Sword, was given to an hero to fight against a demon in ancient times.

2-The sword sealed all the evil in that chest.

3-Ganon is stated to be an "ancient demon reborn"... though I don't know where this fits in the storyline of this game. Maybe, the final boss will be the ancient demon?

Hum... Really, this seems to be backing up the theory that FS happens before everything else, after all, it's explaining the true origin of the Master Sword.

I guess that somehow it's seal will be broken, and Link will get the Four Sword to fight against wathever was in there. That will release Ganon again, though he won't appear for most of the game, setting up the stage for OOT some time after that.

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Posted 08 October 2004 - 06:12 AM

Picori Blade?! C'mon Aonuma, this was a perfect opportunity for some sequelage. :deadlink:

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Posted 08 October 2004 - 07:04 AM

Well maybe the Picori (which I assume is the new name for the minish people maybe?) found the Master Sword and gave it to the hero, but since they didn't know it was the Master Sword they named it the Picori Sword instead.

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Posted 08 October 2004 - 08:04 AM

The Master Sword has went under different names before, i.e. Tempered and Golden Sword.

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Posted 08 October 2004 - 08:11 AM

I'm not sure if this is common knowledge, the boy on the right (the purple one in the hood) is Vaati.

Princess Zelda and Link are (again?) childhood friends, and the main plotpoint thus far is that Vaati turns Zelda into stone. The story in Japanese seems to be (if I can make it out properly)

"This is something of the far, far past. In the country of Hyrule, a Demon appeared and tried to consume the world in darkness. Then, from the heavens, came the tiny Pikkoru, who gave a human hero the golden light, and a single sword. The Hero, with wisdom and courage, with light and sword, fought the demon, and returned peace to Hyrule.
So as to not forget the memory of this event, the people hold a "Pikkoru Festival" once a year. Since then, a lot of time has passed, and just when the Pikkoru had become a legend when something happened...."

and Link is described as
"A young boy who's uncle is a famous swordsmith. He leaves on an adventure to try and break the curse that Vaati cast which turned Princess Zelda to stone. He seeks the Pikkoru Sword on his journey."

More later.

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Posted 08 October 2004 - 08:14 AM

Yeah, a friend of mine, Vorpal revealed to me some of what you revealed, but not all.

The Vaati part was awesome. Like I told HoW last night, it increases his awesomeness by eleventy billion.

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Posted 08 October 2004 - 08:53 AM

So the Picori gave Link the Triforce!!!!!

And its not the Master Sword, but the Picori Blade, even though it looks like the Master Sword!!!!

Zelda has officially screwed itself up (as it stands thus far)

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Posted 08 October 2004 - 09:09 AM

So the Picori gave Link the Triforce!!!!!

And its not the Master Sword, but the Picori Blade, even though it looks like the Master Sword!!!!

Zelda has officially screwed itself up (as it stands thus far)


Screw up? That's no screw up.

Dead characters coming back in future games after blatantly having their innards ripped out (Resident Evil's Wesker) and then having some lame back-story that doesn't make sense to explain how he didn't die? Now that's a screw up.

Having a game charater (Zero) sealed away for a 100 years, only to come back in the next game in the series (even though a new series has started with said character in it having slept undisturbed for nearly a 100 years) which takes place only a few years afterwards? Now that's a screw up.

We have it pretty good compared to other video game franchises.

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Posted 08 October 2004 - 12:26 PM

Picori Blade?! C'mon Aonuma, this was a perfect opportunity for some sequelage. :deadlink:


I feel you there. But it could still be the sequel to TWW even with a different sword. Maybe the intro was explaing the origins of another sword. Also, if Zethar is right about that boy being Vaati, it might also be the prequel to the FS series. :D

Wolf also has a point.

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Posted 08 October 2004 - 02:21 PM

Oh wait, did I forget to mention? The Dark Link guy is actually Vaati (the word Gufuu, which is Vaati's Japanese name, is right next to Dark Link). So Masa and I assume that this is Vaati's eleventy billion times cooler human form.




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