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[Hero of Legend]

Well I have a question, to which I hope somebody can answer: Why in TWW the Triforse bonded with this "Link" yeah I know it bonds with someone who's pure of heart, but also can bind with someone evil as well, but this isn't the real link, not the "hero of time"

No, he is the Hero of Winds, who just happens to be the reincarnation of the Hero of Time. If he is not a "real" Link, then no Link is.

Seriously, what is up with people thinking he is not a real Link just because we see him get his tunic? It doesn't make any sense.

why then was this boy able to aquire both the Master Sword and the Triforce of Courage?

Do pray tell.

And what did the King of Red Lions mean when at the end of WW when he said: "I have scattered the seeds of the future?"

Exactly what it says: That he has scattered the seeds (i.e. Link and Zelda) that will grow into a new future.

Now, the question is, what does your post have to do with the topic at hand?

Edited by Hero of Legend, 21 October 2006 - 02:30 PM.

[Showsni]

That seemed to work... Topic split.

Remember, OoT Link has only been in two games - all the other ones have a different Link in. They're generally all regarded as being the same legendary hero, though, in various incarnations. The Prophecy of the Great Cataclysm is what states a hero will appear whenever evil threatens the triforce, and Link is the hero who does.

The KoRL means that he has planted hope for the future, to continue his metaphor. With Ganon gone and old Hyrule washed away, the people of the Great Sea can move forwards without being tied down by their past. Hyrule is gone and the slate washed clean.

[LionHarted]

Typically, the Master Sword will not appear in a game in which the villain does not possess the Triforce. KnS and the Oracles are exceptions to this rule--which is why many ZU theorists do not include KnS in canon, and why the Master Sword in the Oracles is considered irrelevant to the storyline.

[Duke Serkol]

Typically, the Master Sword will not appear in a game in which the villain does not possess the Triforce. KnS and the Oracles are exceptions to this rule--which is why many ZU theorists do not include KnS in canon, and why the Master Sword in the Oracles is considered irrelevant to the storyline.

I concur (but adding "does not -appear to- possess the Triforce). And I would dare say the other way around works as well: when the triforce is part of the plot, the Master Sword will usually be as well, with the exception of the games before ALttP (when the Sword had not been conceived by the authors yet).

The MS was created as a last resort should the Triforce fall into evil hands which is why Link still wins in ALttP but needs to have at least part of the triforce to beat Ganon in LoZ (sorry if I'm stating the obvious, I just felt like it )

[LionHarted]

OoT and TWW seem to have caught on to this idea--that a Triforce piece is generally necessary to defeat Ganon--and they both sort of combine the two--Master Sword and Triforce piece--in the final battles with Ganon.

[Paviel]

OoT and TWW seem to have caught on to this idea--that a Triforce piece is generally necessary to defeat Ganon--and they both sort of combine the two--Master Sword and Triforce piece--in the final battles with Ganon.

Of course, as far as anyone knows, Link managed to defeat Ganon quite soundly without any piece of the Triforce in aLttP. Then again, he DID have the Moon Pearl, but I'm not sure if that gave him some small amount of control over the Triforce or merely protected him from its effects.

Unless he had the Triforce of Courage all along, and Ganon didn't have the whole set. But the ending of aLttP suggests that Link did seize the whole set from Ganon.

[LionHarted]

You could also argue that the Silver Arrows allowed him to defeat Ganon without possessing a Triforce piece.

Actually, technically, Link and Ganondorf don't have their pieces in TWW. I probably should have mentioned that, huh?

[Fyxe]

which is why many ZU theorists do not include KnS in canon

Like we care. ¬.¬ Honestly. Who gives a monkeys about a random community's twistedly biased opinion of 'canon'.

[MikePetersSucks]

ER...nevermind, Lionharted's post was deleted.

Edited by MikePetersSucks, 22 October 2006 - 10:19 PM.

[LionHarted]

Who gives a monkeys about a random community's twistedly biased opinion of 'canon'.

Good question.

Why AM I here?

Edited by LionHarted, 22 October 2006 - 07:10 PM.

[Duke Serkol]

I'm sure he does... but the Hero of Winds did have it at the start, as well as the Master Sword, and yet managed to get knocked out with one swift attack. That pansy is the shame of the Hero's bloodline in my book.

In any case, as Coinilius once pointed out to me, it appears that the King of Red Lions does not ever suggest that Link needs the Triforce of Courage to defeat Ganon, but rather to further prove himself a hero and be allowed below the sea again.
Meh.

And of course in OoT it helps, a lot, but it's really a plus to having the master Sword, I'd say (in fact, I would suppose Link could still win with the Master Sword in his hand, had the Triforce of Courage chosen someone else to be its holder)