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#1 Fin

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 11:36 AM

We've seen a lot of theories about the Dark Mirror of Four Swords Adventures connecting it to other mirrors in the series. People have compared it to A Link to the Past's Magic Mirror, Twilight Princess' Mirror of Twilight... well, before I get to the point, let's look at these theories, shall we?

It seems to me many of the similarities between the Dark Mirror and your counterpart of choice have arisen largely from FSA's hectic storyline development. Judging from Aonuma quotes, early on the game was intended to be one of the first games in the timeline, presumably before Ganon had been added to the story. Considering the backstories of both FSA and TP's mirrors, perhaps they were originally meant to be one and the same? Of course, FSA is now much later in the timeline, coming after TP, and any connections between the mirrors was shattered to pieces by Midna.

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What about the Magic Mirror, then? FSA was at one point going to tell the story of the Imprisoning War from LttP's backstory. There are a few similarities to these two mirrors also, as they both bring darkness to light (LttP moving something from the dark world to the light world, FSA literally creating dark clones of people), and it's just one more on the long list of connections between the two games. This one is also doubtful, however, as Miyamoto forced the development team to change the story, wanting the Imprisoning War to be a seprate event. This makes some of the connections between the two games less clear, and while important things like the trident are obviously still the same, the mirrors are less obvious.

Of course, there is one mirror that everyone has overlooked. And so, with great joy, I present my new mirror theory!

The Dark Mirror is...

(dah-dah-dah-DAHN!)

The mirror from The Adventure of Link!

You know... that one... the one under the table...

This theory offers some explanation to the mysteries in AoL. For example, where exactly did the last boss come from, anyway? The mirror under the table, of course! And it makes sense that the mirror would be in the possession of one of the town elders, who may be descended from the sages themselves! One problem with this theory is that the mirror never seems to cause any trouble while you have it, but come on! You pick up the mirror and hand it to the town elder! When did it have the time? Besides, that was probably when it brought the darkness in Link's soul to life. From there on it lay dormant in him, until the perfect moment to attack came!

The elder also teaches you the LIFE spell for recovering the mirror. He must have been concerned about your well-being after carrying such a dangerous object around!

Anyway, the mirror is obviously very powerful. Look...

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It allows Link to speak! Clearly, this is not an ordinary mirror! :ahh:

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 11:50 AM

good find, this is earth shaking news. ;)

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 11:53 AM

It will shake the very foundations of timeline theorising!

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 11:55 AM

Of course, FSA is now much later in the timeline, coming after TP, and any connections between the mirrors was shattered to pieces by Midna.


You mean any possibility of FSA coming after TP was shattered to pieces by Midna. There are two timelines, remember?
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 12:05 PM

I don't really think any connections between the FSA and TP mirrors matter that much anyway, since the connections to the Mirror Under the Table™ are so much stronger.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 12:48 PM

Why is it that when Link finally talks, he sounds like a complete retard.

"Ah fownd a mirruh undah da tabool."

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 12:50 PM

Well he hasn't had much practice, has he?

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 02:27 PM

Well he hasn't had much practice, has he?


Hey! Excuuuuuse me, princess!


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Posted 09 February 2009 - 03:14 PM

None of the mirrors are any other mirrors. Hyrulians just tend to make magic mirrors the same way they make canes and medallions and shit.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 03:56 PM

I solemnly proclaim this thread the best thing ever at Storyline.

Arturo hath spoken.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 06:05 PM

I was expecting to get pissed off by the Dark Mirror discussion again, instead I find the best topic on the board. Of course, Lex STILL has to go and ruin it by proving that everything he said before was a lie and that he's still continuing to use a theory as evidence, despite knowledge of intent for FSA's placement.

You mean any possibility of FSA coming after TP was shattered to pieces by Midna. There are two timelines, remember?


Any possibility of FSA coming after TWW was shattered to pieces by the King of Hyrule. And look, unlike your shitty theory, that's true whether the mirrors at the same or not, as long as it existed before TWW. LOL at them being the same mirror... There's no hope in hell of that thing surviving the flood. "The mirrors aren't the same because FSA is after TP" is equal to or even a greater argument than "FSA isn't after TP because the mirrors are the same". Good thing the former argument isn't even necessary to disregard your nonsense, whereas the latter is all you have.

Anyway, let's never speak of that again, and get back to the AoL theory, which has far more evidence behind it, and distinctly lacks the inherent contradictions of other such theories. I love it. (I also love Lex not even realising he's being mocked and giving the exact stupid response he was baited into while ignoring the rest of the topic.)

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 08:13 PM

You know, there is one other possibility; one that we have all overlooked, and yet it has more weight than even the Adventure of Link theory. I'm talking, of course, about the mirror from Wand of Gamelon.

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See? Link's trapped inside it; this is what prevents him saving the king, forcing Zelda to rescue him. But, is this really Link? Maybe this is a Shadow Link brought to life by the mirror!


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Posted 09 February 2009 - 08:45 PM

Why did you have to subject us to that? I hate you.

If you think about it, the Oracles "dual game" idea was based on the CD-i games...

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 08:47 PM

This theory is just as good as the Triforce of time Theory

You know, there is one other possibility; one that we have all overlooked, and yet it has more weight than even the Adventure of Link theory. I'm talking, of course, about the mirror from Wand of Gamelon.

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See? Link's trapped inside it; this is what prevents him saving the king, forcing Zelda to rescue him. But, is this really Link? Maybe this is a Shadow Link brought to life by the mirror!

They're ALL the same Mirror! :o

It makes so much sense!

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 01:24 AM

The King has the scariest laugh.

And he looks scary when he laughs.

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 02:03 AM

Wand of Gamelon takes place inbetween OOT's Adult Ending and TWW by the way. The King is Daphnes in his younger life, and Link being trapped in the mirror is why he was unable to stop Ganon and thus why the Goddesses had to flood Hyrule. The destruction of the mirror in the massive torrent of the floodwater shatter it, and with it, the Triforce of Courage, it's fragments sealed away by Zelda before giving birth to the line that would spawn Tetra.

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 08:21 AM

They're ALL the same Mirror! :o

It makes so much sense!


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It's so simple! In all of Hyrule there is only one mirror! Just like there's only one boat!

It will shake the very foundations of timeline theorising!


Wand of Gamelon takes place inbetween OOT's Adult Ending and TWW by the way. The King is Daphnes in his younger life, and Link being trapped in the mirror is why he was unable to stop Ganon and thus why the Goddesses had to flood Hyrule. The destruction of the mirror in the massive torrent of the floodwater shatter it, and with it, the Triforce of Courage, it's fragments sealed away by Zelda before giving birth to the line that would spawn Tetra.


I was right!




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